Two Yamaha branded ebike modification questions

[Maestrodenada]

Very happy 2019 CrossCore owner and just bought a new Crosscore RC with the wicked 60% off + free battery + 5 year warranty deal Yamaha is running right now.

1. Are the displays swappable? I really prefer the more robust / functional display on the 2019, and the USB plug is handy. I see that the newer Moros seem to have the same display as my 2019, so it's not discontinued.

2. Has anyone put an IGH on one of these bikes? I know the integrated hub speed sensor is a challenge... I've seen a couple of threads about people successfully swapping out the rear wheel (with the help of some machining to make the sensor fit), wondering if anyone has done this successfully with a geared hub. Ideally I'd like to eventually put a

-Robert

 

[JRA]

As I read it the 5yr warranty is on the battery only?

 

[BlackHand]

As I read it the 5yr warranty is on the battery only?

Warranty is on drive unit, battery, frame and rigid fork.
In the fine text of the offer

 

[napilopez]

It's been frustratingly difficult to find conclusive information online about which displays are compatible with the Crosscore RC, but there seems to be good evidence at least the fancypants Display C and will work with the PW-ST. I can't tell for sure with the other displays, like the Display B (which would be my preferred display). Aside from the additional information, my main reason for wanting a different display is being able to charge my phone directly off the bike battery. This has saved me numerous times on my Brompton Electric.

The clearest confirmation: I found the Haibike Trekking 6 uses both the PW-ST motor and the Display C. It's always possible there's some software aspect that would prevent it from working with the Crosscore RC, but it's reassuring.

Some more research:

• Per several stores online, the Display C is compatible with all units from 2019 forward. However, Yamaha's own site says from 2022 forward. I can't tell if it's because there's a new variant of the Display C. Seems the same in all instances.
• I found this manual [PDF] for some bikes with Yamaha motors. Page 2 seems to imply the PW-ST can be outfitted with either the Display A (which the Crosscore RC comes with) or the Display B.
• When I actually look up the bikes listed in that manual, I can't seem to find a PW-ST model with the Display B... On the other hand, I can see bikes with the newer PW-S2 motor which are using the Display A, which suggests the bikes at least use the same interface.
• This other Yamaha PDF suggests on the first page both the minimalist Interface X and the Display C are compatible with the PW-ST motor, although it doesn't say explicitly say so.

Unfortunately, I think one of us will have to bite the bullet to be sure!

 

[drdaveuk]

I know this is an older thread, but for those still interested, I have successfully swapped my Display A for Display C on my Wabash RT. It was a straightforward swap. Just plug and play.

 

[Grueso]

I know this is an older thread, but for those still interested, I have successfully swapped my Display A for Display C on my Wabash RT. It was a straightforward swap. Just plug and play.

Thanks for the update! Does the pedal power display and logging (to a connected phone app) work? That would be my main interest in getting the Display C.

 

[drdaveuk]

I have an Android phone that connects to the Echowell e-sync app. I'm still playing with the settings, but it does record speed and distance. I haven't been able to get the app to recognize cadence, that shows on Display C, but the RPM field in the app shows 0. It uses Bluetooth to connect, which was pretty easy to get connected. The app supposedly connects with Strava, but even though it says it is connected, I don't see the activity showing up in Strava. I will keep playing with the settings and hopefully find the right combination. Additionally, I have been recording my rides on my Garmin Fenix 6, but that doesn't seem to allow me to connect with the Wabash. I think the Fenix 7 is able to connect, but who knows.