Toyota's President Says Electric Vehicles Are Overhyped

[Handlebars]

A classmate of mine spent a decade or two in China setting up nuclear plants, and said they were strictly an interm solution or "vanity projects" as he called them.

Why not call them immoral technology transfer mediums to horrendous human rights trashing criminal organizations that wish us the worst?

 

[john peck]

The Brits still have trains like that, not the "tube", overland to the city from the burbs and back. Seemed to work rather well most of the time, except when they didn't , and then they were horrid. Almost as bad as airports.

That geography post was sarcasm, Art. Hope you didn´t fake it serious.

 

[Handlebars]

I should have mentioned that i live less than an hour from (the still glowing) three mile island plant and might be a bit prejudiced.

Did you buy property after the accident?

 

[J.R.]

I was probably within 50 miles, as the crow flies, when TMI accident happened. I was much closer to Peach Bottom APS and not all that far from Calvert Cliffs NPP. These plants do not have a lot of public support in the region. This was all over the radio here after the incident at TMI.

 

[sc00ter]

As much as I wanted a EV I ended up buying a Honda Fit. It's the best option for me. I'll never suffer range anxiety, it uses so little gas I could care less about the gas prices spiking like they always do and it has small affordable tires, brakes and service cost. Plus its nice enough to take care of but cheap enough if it gets banged up I really don't care. Oh, and my insurance is cheap as well. If it ever dies then maybe EV cars will be more in my car budget. Fit was under 20k new.

 

[Stefan Mikes]

Toyota has made a long term committment to hydrogen based on the issues re large scale use of EVs. Hydrogen has its own set of issues so it comes down to which set of trade offs is easiest to over come.

Hydrogen has to be generated. To generate hydrogen, you need energy. Where are you taking that energy from?
(Nuclear).

 

[Luto]

Home - TerraPower BillGs company.

Bill Gates' nuclear venture plans reactor to complement solar, wind power boom | Reuters

I think WA State is putting one in near the old Nuclear plant in Longview-Kelso WA

Liquid Sodium Tech.

 

[theemartymac]

I think there is a missed point when people quote existing power generation capacity as a factor. We are many years away from getting even half the cars on the road swapped out for EV. There is plenty of time to design and implement new generation solutions before then. The biggest short term option (i.e. <20yrs) for many sunny areas is simply to add local residential generation to the grid by way of solar, or wind in coastal/mountain areas. That can be done quickly, although it would have to change the common charge cycle patterns so that people are charging during the day/at work, etc. when the solar or wind systems are generating peak power.

Rural areas and many remote industrial sectors will be on fossil fuels far longer, and that is fine. If we can get the cities converted in the next 50 years, we will start to make a dent in the CO output. It's literally just a case of getting the tech to cost effective levels of mass production.

 

[theemartymac]

Home - TerraPower BillGs company.

Bill Gates' nuclear venture plans reactor to complement solar, wind power boom | Reuters

I think WA State is putting one in near the old Nuclear plant in Longview-Kelso WA

Liquid Sodium Tech.

I also feel there is a serious potential with Sodium or Thorium Salt Reactors, but it is going to be a huge uphill battle to get people back on-side with any nuclear option in the near future. Chernobyl and Fukushima are just too familiar...

 

[FlatSix911]

Toyota is Toast... Toyota CEO shows lack of vision, spreads EV misinformation, and spells the end for the automaker - Electrek

Toyota CEO Akio Toyoda went on a rant about battery-electric vehicles at an annual meeting of the automaker. He spread misinformation about electric vehicles and claimed that it wasn’t a good idea to push for a massive electrification. This small-mindedness could spell the end for the automaker if they don’t quickly let go of such ideas. Toyota has yet to launch an all-electric vehicle outside of China. Despite the fact that the company announced an acceleration of its electric vehicle plans last year, the Japanese automaker has been focused on hybrids and fuel cell vehicles, and it has often dismissed battery-electric vehicles.

This bad-mouthing of electric vehicles has often come directly from CEO Akio Toyoda. Now he went at it again today during comments about the Japanese government’s announcement that they plan on banning the sale of new gasoline-powered cars starting in 2035. The Wall Street Journal reported on his comments, which included claiming that battery-electric vehicles were more polluting than gasoline-powered vehicles due to electricity being mainly produced by gas and coal in some places — something that has been proven false by several studies.

 

[Dallant]

A. I could care less what the Toyota president says about the future as I’m sure it’s based on his investment strategies.
B. We will discover new technologies/methodologies only to the degree that we strive to achieve a goal.

 

[kmccune]

I also feel there is a serious potential with Sodium or Thorium Salt Reactors, but it is going to be a huge uphill battle to get people back on-side with any nuclear option in the near future. Chernobyl and Fukushima are just too familiar...

Like Dr.Strangelove. I came to love the "Nuke" seriously the dangers are overhyped, stacked up against mtns of coal ash and combustion facilities, in the long-run anything we do is temporary. I imagine the politicians have figured out any of the Opec or oil-exporting nations that want Nuclear power are really wanting to join the "A-Bomb club".
Its a sad reflection on the "Human( or inhuman ) Race", that we cannot get along together, having to co-exist with the concept of Detente' or "Mad"( Burn that freakin plutonium in a reactor to make something we humans need and enjoy)
" Mad" is a creepy construct of the 20th Century, it replaces harmony with anger and hatred, this society worships "Mad" in our bloodsport and 'Gladitorial" mindset, when "sierra" goes bad 99% of the spectators that are watching the event unfold are urging the Gladiators to kill each other rather than breaking up the needless ire and hatred.
" We only have one life we are sure of, do not bank on"Pie in the Sky",( paraphrase from the "Book of Silver'.)

 

[Handlebars]

B. We will discover new technologies/methodologies only to the degree that we strive to achieve a goal.

Accidental discoveries are ruled out by your statement; it's already proven false by history. As well, work done in one area may sometimes be applied to a different area.

 

[Ebiker01]

l never suffer range anxiety, it uses so little gas I could care less about the gas prices spiking like they always do and it has small affordable tires, brakes and service cost.

Typical selfish mentality. That's why in US a mandatory ban starting 2026 (2030 is too late) for future sales of ICE vehicles is urgently needed , b/c ppl.fail to understand the cumulative negative effects of CO2 pollution or NO. And they are breathing the same polluted air too . If they were using cleaner air from other planet it would have been diff. Until then, we are stuck here.

Illegal emissions tampering on diesel trucks is rampant—and apparently a big business

Illegal delete kits and tampering with emissions equipment is so common that is creates more noncompliant vehicles than the VW diesel scandal, a new EPA report suggests.

www.greencarreports.com

Range anxiety - over 300miles in a perfoming EV like model 3 ! Or ~250miles with a Ford Mach E. Your car dealer doesn't have a clue. Obsolete and will vanish .

 

[Ebiker01]

I also feel there is a serious potential with Sodium or Thorium Salt Reactors, but it is going to be a huge uphill battle to get people back on-side with any nuclear option in the near future. Chernobyl and Fukushima are just too familiar...

SMR's

Advanced Small Modular Reactors (SMRs)

Information on advanced small modular reactors and the Department of Energy's Small Modular Reactor Licensing Technical Support (SMR-LTS) Program.

www.energy.gov

As far as Toyota's future they are so faaaar behind that a this point unless they invest 100billion+ they won't survive the technologic revolution of EV's !
VW invested over 30billions , started 2-3 years ago, has battery contracts already.
Why Will China give Toyota any battery contracts ?? Nio is gov. entity, Li, Xpeng are doing well and selling in Europe now. 300miles/ 450km+range Ev's . Toyota has none and is toasted. Should make some vacuums, blenders , powertools instead...

 

[Handlebars]

Typical selfish mentality. That's why in US a mandatory ban starting 2026 (2030 is too late) for future sales of ICE vehicles is urgently needed , b/c ppl.fail to understand the cumulative negative effects of CO2 pollution or NO. And they are breathing the same polluted air too . If they were using cleaner air from other planet it would have been diff. Until then, we are stuck here.

Illegal emissions tampering on diesel trucks is rampant—and apparently a big business

Illegal delete kits and tampering with emissions equipment is so common that is creates more noncompliant vehicles than the VW diesel scandal, a new EPA report suggests.

www.greencarreports.com

Range anxiety - over 300miles in a perfoming EV like model 3 ! Or ~250miles with a Ford Mach E. Your car dealer doesn't have a clue. Obsolete and will vanish .

People who deny that their decisions are based on selfishness are liars.

 

[Handlebars]

People who deny that their decisions are based on selfishness are liars.

I wasn't directing that at what Sc00ter said. People who demand things in the name of saving the earth from CO2 are among the biggest liars and cheats on the planet. Ignorance is no excuse when it's about saving the planet.
Which of these do gooders even know what the climate sensitivity to CO2 means and how it derived and the history of those scientists and their involved work? None of the CO2 bullies here know even that much.
Do they know that the main promulgator of CO2 doom in climate sensitivity, when his main work was being challenged by a statistics nerd who asked for all the supporting data used so he could look things over and write his paper, stalled for a year in providing his data. When the nerd was due to publish his critique and informed the main guy, the guy THEN declared it was ALL LOST. All data lost. The most important piece of evidence on earth had all supporting evidence LOST. Musta been that bad dog aqain! Always going after the homework.

Nic Lewis:"I have been trying for over a year, without success, to obtain from Dr Forest the data used in Forest 2006. However, I have been able to obtain without any difficulty the data used in two related studies that were stated to be based on the Forest 2006 data. It appears that Dr Forest only provided pre-processed data for use in those studies, which is understandable as the raw model dataset is very large.


Unfortunately, Dr Forest reports that the raw model data is now lost. Worse, the sets of pre-processed model data that he provided for use in the two related studies, while both apparently deriving from the same set of model simulation runs, were very different. One dataset appears to correspond to what was actually used in Forest 2006, although I have only been able to approximate the Forest 2006 results using it. In the absence of computer code and related ancillary data, replication of the Forest 2006 results is problematical..."

The climate scientist clan have consistently refused to supply the things necessary to check their work. Only after years of negative publicity on the internet after they were exposed, have they very grudgingly begun to supply data and code so their work could be checked. They did everything they could to prevent it.

Phil Jones, Director of CRU:

We have 25 or so years invested in the work. Why should I make the data available to you, when your aim is to try and find something wrong with it.

Phil testified that in his 30 years of writing papers, not once had his work ever been checked by reviewer asking for the underlying data. NEVER. That is climate science. In general, it's not science at all. It's been hijacked by activists who block anything contrary or questioning of the narrative. They force journal editors to apologize and beg forgiveness for publishing a contrary paper. One editor quit and personally apologized to the ringleader after he published a paper they didn't like.
That doesn't happen in a science.

 

[Handlebars]

China emits almost double what the US does and pollutes the land and the oceans like no other. So what do the climate bullies seek? Whatever Obama said. Obama made the agreement to cut US emissions of CO2 as quickly as possible, while China was to INCREASE as quickly as possible. That was the deal.
So we buy our ebikes from CHINA and give ourselves a smug pat on the back for using what is toxic for the environment and for keeping virtual slaves in mines, and we vilify those who aren't in agreement to put the CCP first.
You know, cuz they have so many many peopallll ( kept in virtual slavery and poverty while the CCP becomes ever more vastly wealthy and owns many countries right now).

 

[Handlebars]

Okay, China has 1.43 billion people and US has 329 million.
That's over 4.3 times the population, yet China is emitting only double the pollution compare to the US?

If that's true, per capita, China is doing twice as better.

If US emission goes down to China's level, then earth would be in better shape.
You should be looking at emission per capita.

That's like saying California is the most polluting state in the US, and Alaska or Wyoming is the least polluting states.
(I'm just saying these as an example, I do not have actual statistics on emission per capita)

But if you look per capita, considering California is quite progressive on emission standards, I suspect California is one of the best in the states (per capita).

That is true enough, but why is about per capita when the CCP has all those people in poverty and slavery?
Why is it about freedom to do it because of "per capita" reasons when "the world will end" if it's not stopped?

 

[Handlebars]

Why was the deal for the CCP to INCREASE CO2 output as quickly as possible?