The transition

BECAUSE I JUST FINISHED SOMETHING AT WORK and am entertained by this, i think what mr. c was saying is something like this :
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There are vast swathes of north america where you really do need a large truck to get your business done and an electric version is nowhere near up for the job.
Steve can you bring up 20 gallons of diesel, we had to pull a semi out of a ditch.
Steve can you bring up 100kwh of electricity.
 
BECAUSE I JUST FINISHED SOMETHING AT WORK and am entertained by this, i think what mr. c was saying is something like this :
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Nice. I agree that is what Mr. C probably thinks. Would need to clarify what the "kid" he is referring to actually is. My definition of kid is not old enough to have the family/house responsibilities.

In my area, I don't see F350s unless they are owned as work horses and tow regularly; construction or 5th wheelers.

I see 150/250s regularly used for recreational uses; we had 150s for years that were used for camping almost every weekend in the summer. 250 when we started towing. Our first truck (1977) was purchased because it was less expensive than virtually any car available at the time. Very few I see have them "just because"; that's what Suburbans are for. Big is beautiful!

But we live in the Heartland, not the Coast.
 
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But we live in the Heartland, not the Coast.

right, that's one of the things that's great about america, vastly diverse geographies and living situations. but most americans live in and around urban areas - the 11 "heartland" states have around 27 million people of which around 35% live outside cities, so you're talking about 9-10 million people. around one in 38 americans live in the situation you're describing. about the same number of people live in los angeles county as the rural and extraurban population of those entire 11 states. this is why it's kind of silly to say EVs don't work for americans because towing, hauling tons of s*it, driving thousands of miles without getting gas, and so on. that is just not the reality for the VAST majority of americans!

In this 11-state footprint, an estimated 34.3% of the total population (approx. 9.4 million out of 27.4 million) lives outside of a city or metro area of 50,000+ people. This is significantly higher than the overall U.S. average, where only about 14% to 19% of the country lives outside an MSA. [1, 2]
 
There are vast swathes of north america where you really do need a large truck to get your business done and an electric version is nowhere near up for the job.
Steve can you bring up 20 gallons of diesel, we had to pull a semi out of a ditch.
Steve can you bring up 100kwh of electricity.

vast swathes of land. not vast numbers of people. land doesn't drive vehicles, people do!
 
I live in a resort area where more than half the houses are second homes used only a few times a year. In nearby Lake Arrowhead, there are multi-million dollar lake front homes that only get used one day a year, usually the Fourth of July. You can tell because they have shutters over the windows. They are third or fourth homes for very wealthy families. If someone wants to buy a truck to tow their boat a few times a year, it's their money and they have a right to do so. Or tow their ATVs to the desert, or their race car to the track, or tow their horses around. Lots of people do those things, even people who live in Los Angeles and Orange County. Just look at the 91 eastbound or the 5 northbound on a Friday night and count the boats, RVs, 5th wheels, etc.
 
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