The transition

[Chargeride]

Yes that would be nice, but even a Manhatten style world effort for the next thirty years wouldnt touch it, theyre running out of equipment for data centres already.

I dont own shares in BP you know, I just post the reality, I couldnt give a t0ZZ if all the oil barons went bust, except maybe our pensions.

Local generation, personal responsibility, vastly reduce goods movement, roof solar that you rely on and public generation for people too poor to buy it or the intelligence to use it properly.
But we still need to power the police, the refuse collection, sanitation, civil service, farming, food production, hospitals. the forces, manufacturing, recycling.

The reality is netzero means you are going to have to reel in your life unless you make steps to personally create your energy

 

[Chargeride]

Why are you a climate denier Charge? Is it too much Facebook? I don't get the point of it.

So if I just pretend the facts dont exist that will fix climate change.

 

[Rás Cnoic]

Yes that would be nice, but even a Manhatten style world effort for the next thirty years wouldnt touch it, theyre running out of equipment for data centres already.

I dont own shares in BP you know, I just post the reality, I couldnt give a t0ZZ if all the oil barons went bust, except maybe our pensions.

Local generation, personal responsibility, vastly reduce goods movement, roof solar that you rely on and public generation for people too poor to buy it or the intelligence to use it properly.
But we still need to power the police, the refuse collection, sanitation, civil service, farming, food production, hospitals. the forces, manufacturing, recycling.

The reality is netzero means you are going to have to reel in your life unless you make steps to personally create your energy

Look around you. Take farms, they are more worried about climate change then anyone and are seeing the increased fuel prices as a real threat. Solar uptake is growing, all those winter sheds. Farms make ideal Solar/wind/battery HQs - the farm vehicles don't need to go far and so battery tech is ideal. The Diesel & heating costs are killing them. I grew up on a farm, the worry about weather and harvest is very real. can make or break a year. And the army aagin with a lot of land is fast implementing solar and EVs. Industry by Industry all are starting to adapt, some quicker (because its easier) then others. And we're on an ebike site for christ sake - the mini revolution f cargo bikes rather then van has huge transport implacations. Again, this is transition, its not a headline grabbing process by and large but happening quietly.

Date centres by the way are the spawn of the devil, the physical manifestation of ponzi scheme bullshit. Burn them all.

 

[Chargeride]

The problem is that fossil use is going up not down, co2 is going up not down.

Yes, absolute global fossil fuel consumption and production continue to rise

The key trends driving this include:

• Record Overall Demand: Total global energy and electricity consumption is surging, particularly in developing economies in the Global South (like India and China), which require massive amounts of power to lift living standards.
• Coal's Persistence: Coal continues to grow in major Asian economies, offsetting usage declines in Europe and North America.
• Oil and Gas Growth: Consumption for both oil and natural gas remains at or near all-time highs. ...Our World in Data

 

[Rás Cnoic]

The problem is that fossil use is going up not down, co2 is going up not down.

Yes, absolute global fossil fuel consumption and production continue to rise

The key trends driving this include:

• Record Overall Demand: Total global energy and electricity consumption is surging, particularly in developing economies in the Global South (like India and China), which require massive amounts of power to lift living standards.
• Coal's Persistence: Coal continues to grow in major Asian economies, offsetting usage declines in Europe and North America.
• Oil and Gas Growth: Consumption for both oil and natural gas remains at or near all-time highs. ...Our World in Data

It's more nuanced situ. The reason it's going up is the extra demand from developing nations but the rate it's going up has slowed dramatically and renewables as demonstrated by that UK graph, are sky rocketing.

I dealt with China's situation earlier in this thread vis a vi coal and renewables. Africa is a mixed bag, the surprise being the big uptake of renewables for economic reasons, not so much climate, likewise EVs in Asia, massive growth - but in all these cases its moving from zero a few years ago, so will take time to eat into established fossils use.

The Oil use picture internationally is mixed as well, some areas the same or an increase, other areas like Europe showing a historic decrease that has Oil firms talking in alarm about it potentially reaching the point of being uneconomical for the pumping/transport/refining business. In other words it's patchy and this is not helped by $$$$$ PR/Propaganda and political leaders like Trump, Putin etc, all designed to slow down or reverse transition. Its why Farage will be a disaster here. Rather a white knight (literally) that his supporters hope, he'll put the country back 20 years, which, is probably what they hope! Though not what they will actually like.

 

[Chargeride]

I dont think he can fix a thing, but if he gets in at least we can say democracy kind of still works.
Restore are just ludicrous, the stuff that comes up on my feed.

 

[PedalUma]

I'll say it again and again. If you think it is okay (or even cute and funny) to joke about harming or killing people because they caused you a short delay you are seriously messed up. And should not be allowed to operate any motorized vehicle under any circumstances until your issues are resolved in a healthy fashion.

That is the person I blocked. I do not recall the name but I do not want to be exposed.

 

[Roamers]

Date centres by the way are the spawn of the devil, the physical manifestation of ponzi scheme bullshit. Burn them all.

One of the handful of useful opinions on this string.

 

[kevinmccune]

The "whole new approach" has been here for a while. Subsidize solar to homeowners that have capability to make use of it, and then charge every ratepayer for the privilege of giving them a break on their bill. This is why I pay some of the highest electric rates in the country. My transmission fees dwarf my usage. Things are going back to the serfs and the kings.

been headed that way a long time.