Tarran T1 “landing gear”

[Dewey]

Interesting “landing gear” stability for cargo bike load handling

T1 Pro Intelligent Electric Cargo Bike - TARRAN

Packed with proprietary innovations, TARRAN T1 Pro is an ultimate compact, intelligent electric cargo bike for families or any urban riders.

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[m@Robertson]

One of the Tarran project engineers posted this web site on a cargo bike group I belong to along with some comments promoting it. Very design-focused as opposed to practicality.

Its not just landing gear. The assembly has sensors that analyze travel and can deploy while riding. For instance to steady the bike at low speed. Starting and stopping, too. Look at those wheels... do they look easy or inexpensive to replace considering they are a wear item?

My comment in that discussion stated we have already been given an object lesson in how smart it is to buy into proprietary technology ... by Van Moof. They who went belly up very publicly a while back after incurring unsustainable warranty service costs on their tech-heavy bikes.

Noteworthy: This bike is a frontloader, and frontloaders' main benefit is how rock-steady they are under load, since cargo is centered and low to the ground. This wheel thing is almost a solution in search of a problem on that kind of a bike.

 

[Jeremy McCreary]

One of the Tarran project engineers posted this web site on a cargo bike group I belong to along with some comments promoting it. Very design-focused as opposed to practicality.

And after all that design focus, they end up with this? Awkward+fragile isn't a good look in any bicycle, much less a utility bike.

Your Van Moof parallel is apt. The Tarran even picked up on the signature Van Moof motif — a strong horizontal visual accent.

 

[PedalUma]

after all that design focus

I think it is funny that with all the flash gizmos that are fragile and proprietary, it is just a hub-drive!

A woman purchased a Velotric for a homeless guy. It has turn signals, 15 levels, and displays all sorts of stuff in color. The bike also says it can be tracked with Apple products. She couldn't track him so wanted us to 'fix' it. We are not a network service provider, are not Apple, and do not have access to the bike. Yes, the guy probably turned the invasive device off. Many people have been playing video games since age two and are attracted to screens while they use their playlist with earbuds when riding. It is to take a real world experience and turn it into a video game. They forget that death in a video game is somewhat different than in the real world. They are looking down and rocking out. It is like that young woman who couldn't track the sun or terrain for direction when she fell into a pit of rattle snakes in E. San Diego because she was looking down trying to find out from her phone which way to go.

 

[Jeremy McCreary]

....It is like that young woman who couldn't track the sun or terrain for direction when she fell into a pit of rattle snakes in E. San Diego because she was looking down trying to find out from her phone which way to go.

Geez, as if rattlesnakes didn't have enough to worry about.

They'll have to add Gen Zers on bikes to their civil defense training.

 

[PedalUma]

Lesson learned. Far Out!
To sell a Pace 500.3 all one needs to do is show how to use the color display, brake lights, turn signals, lights, and walk assist, plus show folks a phone mount, Ooh. Then the thumb throttle for when you are in a jam when in the wrong gear. Never mind that the tires are crap and it is a hub-drive. By the way, school systems have millions of unused overhead projectors in storage gathering dust. The old lenses are amazing. The input could be turned toward the sun instead of a lamp for an array. See Archimedes. Any one would be non-lethal to a witch, just annoying. Happy Halloween.

 

[m@Robertson]

And after all that design focus, they end up with this? Awkward+fragile isn't a good look in any bicycle, much less a utility bike.

We are focusing on the wheels here, but that bike has all sorts of fancy gizmos on it over and above the landing gear. It is VERY software-heavy.

EDIT: oh and also they have not yet made a pricing decision on this monstrosity. Considering the price an R-M Load commands, this is north of that is my guess.

 

[m@Robertson]

I think it is funny that with all the flash gizmos that are fragile and proprietary, it is just a hub-drive!

Its actually a 100 Nm mid drive, You are looking at a big IGH in the back.

 

[Jeremy McCreary]

We are focusing on the wheels here, but that bike has all sorts of fancy gizmos on it over and above the landing gear. It is VERY software-heavy.

When I called the Tarran's look "awkward+fragile", I was referring to the whole thing, not just those gimmicky landing gears.

This is classic Technological Imperative: If it can be done, it will be done, however silly or ill-advised.

 

[m@Robertson]

This is classic Technological Imperative: If it can be done, it will be done, however silly or ill-advised.

Also another principle of design that was never considered: "Don't ask what more can be added. Ask what can be taken away" aka "KISS".

I have already seen a Van Moof bike retrofitted with a BBS02 after its fancy schmancy frame-integrated electronics barfed, bricking the display, the lights AND the hub motor.