Specialized Turbo Vado/Como/Tero/Tero X User Club

[Papa G]

It's that gooey, sticky, clamy, miserable type of a day.
I'll do 20-30 mi tomorrow, and maybe I'll be good with the stock shifter. We shall see.
Bummer I can't use my Kinect (as it's a 31.6mm seat post), gonna have to get a new one of those,
Vado 5.0 uses a 30.9mm I see, but do I get long or short? (350mm vs 420mm)
I'm on the list for the new just announced suspension stem too ( https://cirruscycles.com/pages/suspension-stem-sneak-peek )
The 100mm x 30 degree??

Other than that, I'm searching for any Rack Time ODIN bag for the rack. (87070295).
Seems like none around.
I can alway get a Velcro Amazon cheap bag, but any idea why the 'Snap-IT' bags are so difficult to find everywhere?

As re: "The hub Specialized uses on their e bikes is the same hub they use on their mountain stuff made by Formula"
Are you saying a wheel rebuild is in the works as it has to be laced, built, etc., or is it only "guts"? I'm not fully understanding how an XD hub in a axel hole.

@GuruUno: If their sale is still on, you can order a Kinekt seatpost with 25% off from Selle Anatomica. Their saddles were on sale too. I ordered both an H2 saddle and Kinekt suspension seatpost for my Vado 4.0 then separately ordered just the Kinekt suspension seatpost for my wife’s Vado 5.0. Got the 25% discount off of both orders. The seat tube on the Vado’s is curved so I ordered the short length. Also was an early bird on kick starter for the Kinekt suspension stem. Got them to use in conjunction with Kinekt suspension seatpost post for my rigid Trek SC +7 and my wife’s Electra TC 8i. They work great, but I wouldn’t put the Kinekt suspension stem on the Vado’s since they have suspension forks. https://selleanatomica.com/
The H2 saddle is far and away the best saddle I’ve ever owned. It’s like sitting on a hammock with adjustable tension.

 

[GuruUno]

Thanks for that heads up.....thank you!
My wife has the TC 8i also, I kinda like it....used it a few times, nice bike.
I actually was at the starting gate for the REDSHIFT ShockStop Suspension Seat post too, and this is what is on my wife's Electra TC 8i.
I quite frankly like the Kinect better, but she's happy too!

 

[GuruUno]

I don't believe the wheel setting is quite correct. Looks like it should be 89.29 inches

Guess that has to be done by the dealer, right?
I don't see anywhere to access it in the Mission app.
Thanks

 

[GuruUno]

The delivered a $4400 bike without changing the display?

Hold the left button on the display, it'll eventually change to the settings menu. Don't mess with anything in there, it's all set when the firmware was updated (time and date stuff). Once you access the menu, release the left button, and briefly press both buttons on display to click through the settings, you'll eventually arrive at "units", click the left button to change from metric to imp. After that press both buttons until you're back to the regular screen.

PERFECT! I guess that process - step by step so elegantly explained should be on page 13-1/2!
Done, perfect directions.

 

[Sierratim]

Guess that has to be done by the dealer, right?
I don't see anywhere to access it in the Mission app.
Thanks

Correct. The wheel circumference is set through the dealer's software. I think it's to prevent defeating the speed limits for motor assist.

 

[Sierratim]

PERFECT! I guess that process - step by step so elegantly explained should be on page 13-1/2!
Done, perfect directions.

Our Vados came with instruction sheets for the display separate from the bike manuals. I believe the instructions for setting up the TCD-W and TCD displays are the same and are available HERE .

 

[Papa G]

Correct. The wheel circumference is set through the dealer's software. I think it's to prevent defeating the speed limits for motor assist.

@Sierratim: I think my speed/distance may be running about 5% faster/farther on the Vado TCD-W computer when compared to my Garmin 810 (with a hub speed sensor), even when compared to my Apple Watch (measured by GPS). Also runs about 5% farther than my wife’s Vado 5.0 TCD-W. Not a major concern, just a little annoying. I thought it might be due to the wheel circumference set in my TCD-W display? Any thoughts?

 

[rochrunner]

Well, it took "only" four months, but I finally feel like I have the bike that I paid for. My motor has been replaced and, after a firmware update was applied, the bike performs as expected and there's no more clicking from the motor. I'm especially happy about this since an unanticipated health issue has made it more desirable to use the e-bike so as to not exert myself as much as usual. So I'm riding it almost exclusively when conditions permit.

 

[Papa G]

Well, it took "only" four months, but I finally feel like I have the bike that I paid for. My motor has been replaced and, after a firmware update was applied, the bike performs as expected and there's no more clicking from the motor. I'm especially happy about this since an unanticipated health issue has made it more desirable to use the e-bike so as to not exert myself as much as usual. So I'm riding it almost exclusively when conditions permit.

@rochrunner: Glad to hear they finally got your e-bike issues resolved. Hope that you enjoy riding it and that it helps with maintaining your health!

 

[Sierratim]

@Sierratim: I think my speed/distance may be running about 5% faster/farther on the Vado TCD-W computer when compared to my Garmin 810 (with a hub speed sensor), even when compared to my Apple Watch (measured by GPS). Also runs about 5% farther than my wife’s Vado 5.0 TCD-W. Not a major concern, just a little annoying. I thought it might be due to the wheel circumference set in my TCD-W display? Any thoughts?

Our Vados were delivered at the same time from the same LBS with identical wheels and tires yet had wheel settings that were more than 5% different so I'd say take at a look at your settings. You'll need to have the Mission Control app connected to you bike for this.

 

[Papa G]

Our Vados were delivered at the same time from the same LBS with identical wheels and tires yet had wheel settings that were more than 5% different so I'd say take at a look at your settings. You'll need to have the Mission Control app connected to you bike for this.

Can I set the wheel circumference myself or do I need my LBS to do that?

 

[rochrunner]

Can I set the wheel circumference myself or do I need my LBS to do that?

It has to be done by the shop.

 

[Papa G]

It has to be done by the shop.

Got it done today at LBS. Just popped in. Circumference was wrong , they corrected it and said firmware was already up to date.

 

[PaD]

I’d like to hear from Vado riders with 25km/h restricted bikes. Or those who use Eco mode mostly ( I know settings can vary)

Since I had my Vado 5 with 1.3 motor updated to 7.1.1 the natural feeling in power delivery is gone. This is most noticeable at lower speeds.
My Eco settings used to be 35/35 or 30/30 and I was really happy with that power and also natural feeling. Now with 7.1.1 the power assist is ”overly pushy”. I don’t know how to desribe it really. The bike reacts in an over sensitive way and power consumption has increased.
If I set support to 20 and peak power to 30 or 35 I can sort of ”tame” it and I get back to for me more normal power consumption.
Specialized Rider Care ( Nordic ) answered my mail with questions about this new firmware but their description of changes made in 7.1.1 was that it was e.g. made less sensitive to ” bumps and pedal strokes”. My experince is the opposite.

My impressions may not be obvious for riders who usually have your settings higher or use standard Sport or Turbo mode most of the time.
Any thoughts? Please tell me if you have experienced anything new/different after updating to 7.1.1
( 20 -22°C and sunny. I’ll go for a ride now)

 

[rochrunner]

Any thoughts? Please tell me if you have experienced anything new/different after updating to 7.1.1
( 20 -22°C and sunny. I’ll go for a ride now)

I received 7.1.1 a couple days ago as the result of having the motor replaced. I've only ridden it twice since then, but I also thought that I noticed a difference in smoothness, especially at slower speeds or lighter pedal pressure. It seemed to have more surging than I recall from my previous pre-replacement rides. I was mostly in Eco, which I had set down to an assist level of 15. Also mine is a U.S. 28mph-limit bike.

 

[GuruUno]

Being new to the Vado/Specialized world, I can't speak for any previous comparisons, however, it's much different from the Bosch on my previous Super Commuter and Allant.
Did 24 miles this morning, mostly in Eco, a few bursts with Turbo, and I'm either in good shape or the bike loves me as much I do it

 

[PaD]

I received 7.1.1 a couple days ago as the result of having the motor replaced. I've only ridden it twice since then, but I also thought that I noticed a difference in smoothness, especially at slower speeds or lighter pedal pressure. It seemed to have more surging than I recall from my previous pre-replacement rides. I was mostly in Eco, which I had set down to an assist level of 15. Also mine is a U.S. 28mph-limit bike.

Thanks for your comment.
Surge is probably the the word I was looking for. In addition to what I described in previous post I think that the crank wheel spins for a longer time now after a pedal stroke. Not sure about this though.
Strange it is.
15 as support level is a little low for me. 20 seems to work for now and I set peak power to 35 today.

 

[PaD]

Being new to the Vado/Specialized world, I can't speak for any previous comparisons, however, it's much different from the Bosch on my previous Super Commuter and Allant.
Did 24 miles this morning, mostly in Eco, a few bursts with Turbo, and I'm either in good shape or the bike loves me as much I do it ❤

I’ve always thought that the Vados have a lot of power even in Eco mode. Had a 2018 Vado 4 (1.2 motor) and now a 2020 Vado 5.

 

[rochrunner]

In addition to what I described in previous post I think that the crank wheel spins for a longer time now after a pedal stroke.

Aha! I noticed that too and could feel the extra "lag" in power delivery whenever I stopped pedaling, which is why I looked down at it in the first place. Definitely different from previous behavior, although probably just takes some getting used to since I was accustomed to the earlier version.

 

[Billperry]

. . . In addition to what I described in previous post I think that the crank wheel spins for a longer time now after a pedal stroke. . . .

I'm riding a 2020 Turbo Como 5.0 and have also noticed the crank wheel spinning after a pedal stroke. It takes about 1.5 seconds to stop. That's a long time to wait to down shift gears while going up a hill. Anyone know if that lag time can be adjusted?