Spanninga lights
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NevadaRocks
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I'm glad I stumbled onto your thread as I just posted a very similar thread on the Voltbike forum. I have a Voltbike Yukon 750 that also came with a Kendo+ and agree with you that 30 Lux is not enough light to be effective on unlit streets. This whole issue regarding controller specifications seems to be a "no man's land" of the ebike industry. I have searched far and wide to find out what type of current limitations my controller has, but to no avail. It is also somewhat surprising that the light manufacturers do not readily supply that type of information. The Yukon is a 48 VDC system and delivers the whole package to the light, but only uses 24ma of current. I was hoping to install the 150 Lux Busch&Muller IQ XE (about $100) which demands 7.5 watts (yes, they did supply a power requirement!). That would equate to about 150ma which still is a fairly small current draw. I also found the Spanninga Ascendo Xe on Ebay ($56) which supplies 60 Lux and looks like it truly is a drop in for the Kendo+. I'm guessing that it would draw about 50ma (key word is "guessing" as they do not supply that information). I wish that somebody in the know would be able to give us all an idea just how much power these controllers can safely supply to the lighting circuit. I would really hate to fry a component in my controller. I agree with Dmitri that the connectors are not an issue as the Spanninga (at least mine) has small spade connectors. Nothing exotic. In my opinion, the big issue is current draw.
NevadaRocks
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Good, I'm glad that I'm not the only one concerned about pulling too much current through that little unknown Chinese circuit board. I was afraid that maybe I was being too paranoid about that issue. I would hope that one could pull at least a full amp through it without any problems, but that may be wishful thinking.
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not sure if you guys found an answer but I was also looking for an upgrade. Still haven't found a proper replacement but took a multimeter testing on the leads to the Kendo+ and the voltage is much higher than what a Lezyne ebike macro 1000 allows. If changing the controller voltage isn't the solution than matching the output should be an easier job. Please share if you found an alternative.
not sure if you guys found an answer but I was also looking for an upgrade. Still haven't found a proper replacement but took a multimeter testing on the leads to the Kendo+ and the voltage is much higher than what a Lezyne ebike macro 1000 allows. If changing the controller voltage isn't the solution than matching the output should be an easier job. Please share if you found an alternative.
6zfshdb
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My Pedego has a 40 lux headlight which is barely adequate. It helps me avoid potholes and keeps me out of the ditch but not much else. I'm also leery of overloading the circuit by fooling around with a brighter light. I'm not a fan of wasting valuable bike battery on a headlight anyway. I ride at night perhaps 10% of the time so I prefer to use an easily removable handlebar mounted unit.
I use this 12000 lumen X7 model from Olight and mount it to the bars using the RAM mounting system.
It uses an internal lithium battery which lasts from 30 minutes to 4 hours depending on the level of light selected. The internal battery is also rechargeable via the USB port on my bike display if necessary. The unit also works as an ordinary flashlight when removed from the bike.
I use this 12000 lumen X7 model from Olight and mount it to the bars using the RAM mounting system.
It uses an internal lithium battery which lasts from 30 minutes to 4 hours depending on the level of light selected. The internal battery is also rechargeable via the USB port on my bike display if necessary. The unit also works as an ordinary flashlight when removed from the bike.
Sierratim
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These threads offer some thoughts on upgrading lighting powered by the bike's lighting circuit;
Wired-In Ebike Lights Guide
While visiting my buddy Chris Nolte at Propel Bikes in Brooklyn, NY we spent some time talking about bicycle lights. Chris runs an electric bike shop, so most of the models we looked at had the option to wire-in some lights to run off of the ebike battery. Some of these lights would work just...
electricbikereview.com
Jugernaut Ultra 1000 - Dutch commuter style w/ integrated lights
Just finished re-configuring my new Jugernaut Ultra 1000 in "commuter mode" complete with integrated 48V front and rear lighting! Before I get to the integrated lights (because that's it's own story) here are the changes I made to the stock configuration: Busch + Müller IQ X E headlight (150...
electricbikereview.com
One of the concerns is the output current of the ebike's lighting circuit vs the requirements of any upgraded light. Compatibility charts have been published over the years. Lyzne offers the attached chart.
If you can't find your motor on one of these charts, try getting the spec from the manufacturer then match it to your light. It's always best to have a factor of safety so try not to upgrade to a light that pushes the manufacturer's spec to the limit.
Good luck.
These threads offer some thoughts on upgrading lighting powered by the bike's lighting circuit;
Wired-In Ebike Lights Guide
While visiting my buddy Chris Nolte at Propel Bikes in Brooklyn, NY we spent some time talking about bicycle lights. Chris runs an electric bike shop, so most of the models we looked at had the option to wire-in some lights to run off of the ebike battery. Some of these lights would work just...
Jugernaut Ultra 1000 - Dutch commuter style w/ integrated lights
Just finished re-configuring my new Jugernaut Ultra 1000 in "commuter mode" complete with integrated 48V front and rear lighting! Before I get to the integrated lights (because that's it's own story) here are the changes I made to the stock configuration: Busch + Müller IQ X E headlight (150...
One of the concerns is the output current of the ebike's lighting circuit vs the requirements of any upgraded light. Compatibility charts have been published over the years. Lyzne offers the attached chart.
If you can't find your motor on one of these charts, try getting the spec from the manufacturer then match it to your light. It's always best to have a factor of safety so try not to upgrade to a light that pushes the manufacturer's spec to the limit.
Good luck.
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@Sierratim - Amazing! Thank you so much! This is precious. I'll spend sometime reading these
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Edit: the Jugernaut Ultra 1000 solution of using a relay switch is great for under powered light leads. In my case it's the oposite so I'm thinking of going with an isolated dc-dc converter to drop from 36v to 12v and gain up to 3Amps!
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Sierratim
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I did the same technique for my DIY ebike. Used a DC-to-DC converter to run a 12V light off the bike's 48v battery pack. Worked for years, until I retired that bike.***********
@Sierratim - Amazing! Thank you so much! This is precious. I'll spend sometime reading these
*****
Edit: the Jugernaut Ultra 1000 solution of using a relay switch is great for under powered light leads. In my case it's the oposite so I'm thinking of going with an isolated dc-dc converter to drop from 36v to 12v and gain up to 3Amps!
Enjoy!
Sierratim
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- Nevada City, CA & Paradise Valley, AZ
Our area has very steep hills. Our DIY ebikes had 48V 20Ah battery packs. With motors that drew up to 1Kw I honestly didn't notice any change in range when I added the lights. We used them in flash mode for day rides as well as at max brightness for evening rides. Got the same miles per charge either way.
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