Should We Eliminate the Time Change?

[Chargeride]

I don't work now, so it's not a big problem for me, but I hated clock changes with a passion.

If only for the mental gymnastics of trying to work out if it back or forwards that gives you an extra hour in bed.

 

[StrikesBixer858]

So, there are most states that will observe Daylight Savings Time all year round, and some that'll remain on Standard Time (besides Arizona and Hawaii)...

Personally think that'll cause some confusion.

Now I got this info from this article; article's outdated, but it might come into form. I can't know for sure. That's all I'll be saying about this.

 

[Slaphappygamer]

I think we need a third time change. Just kidding. I really don’t care which is permanent, just as long as it stops changing. Though, I do like daylight. So maybe the one with more sun would be preferred.

 

[Roamers]

If only for the mental gymnastics of trying to work out if it back or forwards that gives you an extra hour in bed.

We found it easiest to look at cell phone in the morning and change clocks that don't match, to match.

Also have mostly "auto-change" clocks.

 

[harryS]

20 years ago, I was in Alaska in June and thought to visit the local golf course after 10PM to see if I could rent some clubs. It was closed and people were sleeping!

 

[Slaphappygamer]

20 years ago, I was in Alaska in June and thought to visit the local golf course after 10PM to see if I could rent some clubs. It was closed and people were sleeping!

Reason to have a third time change. Lol

 

[teskow]

Except for the Navajo reservation in AZ which does observe DST.

I find Arizona's no DST policy to be more confusing than not in my travels around the southwest. I often fly into Phoenix and drive to Paige AZ. In the summer months, you actually pass through 5 time changes on the trip as you pass through portions of the Navajo reservation! Paige, which is surrounded by the Navajo Nation, doesn't observe DST. It's also very close to the Utah border where DST is observed. Driving around the Paige area, I'm never really sure what time it is.

Adopting a standard, whether it's ST or DST, would eliminate all this confusion.

" Adopting a standard, whether it's ST or DST, would eliminate all this confusion."

This is so true. I talk to so many people who make a Such big deal out of DST. Hard to believe but some actually believe it gives us an extra hour of sunlight. They must be joking.
How about China, My understanding is the entire country is on one time zone. It is hard to imagine if the time in New York and Seattle were the same. Now that would be an issue hard to live with.

 

[PCeBiker]

I think that we should cancel time zones as well.

One earth, one clock.

Just sleep when it's dark out or when you feel tired.

 

[Gionnirocket]

Thank God I found this thread. I just figured out why my clocks are wrong half the year.

 

[Jeremy McCreary]

I think we should do away with time altogether. Whose idea was it, anyway??

Sure, everything would happen all at once. But no more waiting, no more deadlines, no work hours, no alarm clocks.
;^}

 

[PCeBiker]

I think we should do away with time altogether. Whose idea was it, anyway??

My understanding is that it was the church that invented clocks so that the people would pray at the right time, and it was the railroads that forced the time zones because trains kept crashing into each other because high noon was at a different time at every stop.

We've all got clocks now so we don't need time zones, we would just be working and sleeping at different times depending on where we are.

When the sun is at it's highest point, it would be the middle of the day regardless of what time it was.
You just get used to your local timing, kinda like how Australia has Christmas in the middle of summer.

Sure, everything would happen all at once. But no more waiting, no more deadlines, no work hours, no alarm clocks.
;^}

I think that it would be kinda cool if the entire world celebrated New Years at the exact same moment.

 

[PCeBiker]

Thank God I found this thread. I just figured out why my clocks are wrong half the year.

You could still be in the wrong time zone though??

 

[Gionnirocket]

You could still be in the wrong time zone though??

Well that's what I've been doing...
When my clocks are wrong I've been moving 200 miles west to correct them. Then back when they're wrong again

 

[Roamers]

It's that time of year again.

Discuss!

 

[Gionnirocket]

My clock says 09:04... and I'm taking it's side.

 

[Roamers]

My clock says 09:04... and I'm taking it's side.

What time will it be Sunday at the same time?

 

[Gionnirocket]

What time will it be Sunday at the same time?

09:04

 

[Biplaneguy]

I like it the way it is.

But, if the twice-yearly changeover is eliminated, it should be standard time, because it would most closely align with astronomical time, at least near the center of each time zone.

Permanent DST is, IMHO, silly. The whole point of DST, where the clocks don't match the real time, is so businesses and schools could all open and close an hour earlier during the summer months without having to post changed hours twice a year. If you really want year-round DST, use standard time and let businesses adjust their hours once. A business open from, say, 7-4 on standard time is exactly the same thing as being open from 8-5 on DST, so what's the justification for having the clocks not match real time?.

I like the switchover because I liked having longer daylight after getting out of school or work during the warmer months, and I didn't like going to school or work in the dark during the winter. Having the longer daylight after work during the cold months is less important because it's either too cold, or even with DST there isn't enough daylight to do much outside anyway. If you made either one permanent, businesses could change their hours twice a year but few would.

I remember walking to school in the dark during the short lived "permanent" DST during the 1970s. People hated it, not least because there was an increase in the number of accidents with more people (including school buses!) driving in the dark morning hours.

Some people mentioned GMT (universal or Zulu time). It's the standard in aviation and other activities where you need to synchronize things across time zones.

 

[Chargeride]

A core philosophical idea found in some traditional African worldviews, which is that time is a lived experience tied to concrete events, rather than an abstract, autonomous entity that flows independently.
This concept is primarily associated with the work of the influential Kenyan philosopher John Mbiti, who argued that in many traditional African societies:
Time is event-based: Time is experienced and understood through "phenomenon calendars," where the focus is on the actual occurrence of events (e.g., seasons, life milestones, natural phenomena like the cock crowing or sun's position).
Time is a "lived" experience: If an event does not take place, then that specific instance of "time" does not come into being. In this sense, humans, by performing actions and creating events, are actively involved in "producing" or "making" time, as it is dependent on human activity and perception to manifest.

The ancients are wise, we will move away from continuous time as automation releases us from its drudgery.

This is not hippy navel gazing by the bored.
I aint got time for that.

 

[Stefan Mikes]

It's that time of year again.

Discuss!

I'm absolutely pissed off with the time change (had it last Saturday/Sunday night in Europe). The EU wanted to abolish the Winter Time already in 2019 and then the covid came... Last I heard, the European Commission wants to leave the decision to each member state, meaning a total chaos and idiocy. Some 80% of Poles want to remain on the Summer time and I'm all in!