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Hey Guys
Do anyone have a Garmin 67 hand help GPS on their bike?

I have had a Garmin 60CSx that has been used on the Toyota PU, Honda 500 ATV, Honda Trail 90 and now it's on my bikes, it has been in use since 2006/March.

It has been a Outstanding GPS thru thousands of miles rough use,
in 4 states, without a hiccup, the only thing has been the on board battery use 25/30 hrs and it's time to change the battery's, unless I use the adaptor that draws juice from the OEM battery's.

I have been looking at the 67 model of handheld, has the same features as the 60 csx model, but has over 180+ hrs ( has 2 lithium battery's) built in.

I am attempting to find out if I can run this 67 GPS off the display like the 60 csx model.

Your thoughts and suggestions of this model of GPS...
Tia
 
Nvreloader said:
I am attempting to find out if I can run this 67 GPS off the display like the 60 csx model.
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Hi, NV... No experience with a Garmin, and I’m wondering if you mean that you want to use your bike’s display as a form of controller for the Garmin or just as a source of power to charge it while riding.

I don’t know if this helps you at all, but on my Juiced RipCurrent, the (upgraded) display has a USB-C port that actually provides enough power to charge my iPhone (which is where I run RideWithGPS). Just a short USB-C to Lightning connector makes it work. This is the setup on my bike. The black USB-C cable connector at the bottom of the display is visible in the photo, and the Lightning connector side is (blurry) where the phone mount is. FYI, I understand that some displays with USB ports do not provide enough power so even if you have one this won’t necessarily be sufficient to charge the Garmin. Good luck!

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Nvreloader said:
Hey Guys
Do anyone have a Garmin 67 hand help GPS on their bike?

I have had a Garmin 60CSx that has been used on the Toyota PU, Honda 500 ATV, Honda Trail 90 and now it's on my bikes, it has been in use since 2006/March.

It has been a Outstanding GPS thru thousands of miles rough use,
in 4 states, without a hiccup, the only thing has been the on board battery use 25/30 hrs and it's time to change the battery's, unless I use the adaptor that draws juice from the OEM battery's.

I have been looking at the 67 model of handheld, has the same features as the 60 csx model, but has over 180+ hrs ( has 2 lithium battery's) built in.

I am attempting to find out if I can run this 67 GPS off the display like the 60 csx model.

Your thoughts and suggestions of this model of GPS...
Tia
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Like you, I used the 60CS for many years, mostly on my conventional bikes and while boating. When the battery life began to fade, I also looked at the newer 67 model as a replacement. I liked the fact that it can be powered via the USB port on my bike's display, which can be used to supplement the internal battery. It must use the correct USB A to USB C cable though. Not all cables will work since it must have the proper pinout. Garmin sells this one: https://www.garmin.com/en-US/p/702326/pn/010-13199-00/ Some models come with this cable included.

Instead of getting the 67, for a few bucks more. I bought the Garmin 700i. It has all the features of the 67 but with a much bigger screen. It also has interchangeable l-ion batteries which lets you carry a spare if necessary. It's larger size makes it less convenient as a hiking handheld, but it works very well on the bikes.
 
The battery life of the solar-powered Garmins is enormous (100 hours) and that seems a better solution than using a USB C charging cable. But that's me.
 
Mr. Coffee said:
The battery life of the solar-powered Garmins is enormous (100 hours) and that seems a better solution than using a USB C charging cable. But that's me.
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I agree, but the solar powered Garmin's lack many of the features I like.

When new, the batteries in most of the units I've used over the years provide sufficient life for the daily rides I do. The compromise would be to get a unit with a replaceable battery that can be easily swapped if necessary. That will eliminate the need for a new GPS, or a difficult battery replacement, when the internal battery dies.

Everyone has different needs though, and what works for some may not for all.
 
Chazmo
I am using the displays USB port to power my 60CXS GPS @ 5v,
I am hoping that I can do the same with the 67 GPS, via a short power cord between the 2.
I am attempting to find the power output of the 2 lion battery's that are permanently installed in the 67 model.
If nothing more, I'll install a battery bank and run the 67 model off it, like I do for the front/back mini cam's, and I also found I can run my 60 gps from the battery bank, which adds a bit more versatility for everything I need.
yrmv
 
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Nvreloader said:
Chazmo
I am using the displays USB port to power my 60CXS GPS @ 5v,
I am hoping that I can do the same with the 67 GPS, via a short power cord between the 2.
I am attempting to find the power output of the 2 lion battery's that are permanently installed in the 67 model.
If nothing more, I'll install a battery bank and run the 67 model off it, like I do for the front/back mini cam's, and I also found I can run my 60 gps from the battery bank, which adds a bit more versatility for everything I need.
yrmv
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Good luck, @Nvreloader !! Sounds like it will likely work!

Also, if this 67 GPS model uses replaceable batteries (AA?) then you should be all set even if you can’t charge from the USB port.

Again, good luck!
 
Chazmo
This 67 GPS uses "Rechargeable, built-in lithium-ion battery"
Up to 180 hr. in GPS mode
Up to 840 hr. in expedition mode

I can't find the voltage spec's etc on the above battery's,
I have an email into Garmin, and hopefully they will provide the spec's, awaiting a reply back.
Tia
 
Nvreloader said:
Chazmo
This 67 GPS uses "Rechargeable, built-in lithium-ion battery"
Up to 180 hr. in GPS mode
Up to 840 hr. in expedition mode

I can't find the voltage spec's etc on the above battery's,
I have an email into Garmin, and hopefully they will provide the spec's, awaiting a reply back.
Tia
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Got it.

Oh, one other possibility… Again, I don’t know your bike, but if the bike’s display doesn’t supply sufficient power to charge the Garmin, there might be an additional cable from the bike’s controller that is intended for this purpose. Some of the power controllers have this, and some (like mine) just bury the wire in the frame without routing it anywhere. Just a thought.

Good luck!
 
I just found out some more info on the Garmin 67@67i models of GPS, has a shooting ballistic solver built in,
I don't know the brand name of the ballistics program yet.

Having the inReach communication program and using it, cuts the battery life by quite a bit in the hrs usage, depending on what you are running.
I don't know if the inReach program can be turn off and on as needed?
I have to find some thing in the communications department end to get the better half to stop chipping her teeth at me every time I ride some where, as there is very spotting cell service around here, and my son has my sat ph.
Tia
 
Chazmo
I am not sure where the controllers are on the Wart Hog MD 750 or Juggs 4 are hidden in the bikes, I think I saw on the WH (48v) that there a head/tail light wiring from the controller, unknown on the Juggs 4 bike (52v).

Would the power from those wires be enough to run the 67 GPS?

I still have not heard back from Garmin on the power requirements for the 67 models of GPS.
Tia
 
Nvreloader said:
Chazmo
I am not sure where the controllers are on the Wart Hog MD 750 or Juggs 4 are hidden in the bikes, I think I saw on the WH (48v) that there a head/tail light wiring from the controller, unknown on the Juggs 4 bike (52v).

Would the power from those wires be enough to run the 67 GPS?

I still have not heard back from Garmin on the power requirements for the 67 models of GPS.
Tia
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would be awfully surprising if there wasn’t enough juice in the lighting wiring, given that the 67i has a pretty small 3.8v 3100mah battery.

you’d need to check the voltage of the light output (probably 5v?), see if the device runs from power at the USB port (many don’t) and if not devise a way to make an adapter to get the power to the battery terminals.

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Nvreloader said:
Chazmo
I am not sure where the controllers are on the Wart Hog MD 750 or Juggs 4 are hidden in the bikes, I think I saw on the WH (48v) that there a head/tail light wiring from the controller, unknown on the Juggs 4 bike (52v).

Would the power from those wires be enough to run the 67 GPS?

I still have not heard back from Garmin on the power requirements for the 67 models of GPS.
Tia
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OK, well you’d probably have to get some advice from the manufacturer/manuals, NV. I don’t know anything about your Bikonit Warthog or your Biktrix Juggernaut. Both companies have support tabs on their websites… You could certainly ask!

For what it’s worth (not much!), My Juiced RipCurrent has a wire that’s basically designed for this purpose, as an auxiliary power out, but it was never deployed. The controller is located in the down tube of the frame. I’ll bet dollars to donuts that the Warthog is the same. Didn’t look at the Juggernaut. Anyway, the aux power wire is separate from my bike’s headlight wiring, as the headlight on/off is controlled by the controller. For the record, if you always ride with your light on (I do), I’m sure you could DIY something to draw power from the headlight cable. Obviously, you’d have to do some electrical wiring surgery, but you might need some circuitry to make the power correct to feed to the Garmin. Charging your Garmin is an infinitesimal power draw on the battery compared to your headlamp.
 
Thanks Chazmo
At this rime, everything is up in the air until Garmin gets back to me on the operating spec's/voltage for these 67 GPS models etc.
I found a Garmin 67's forum site have been prowling around on it,
learning lot of info, so far.

I know that my Garmin 60csx GPS works perfectly from both on my bikes DPC18 displays via a USB cable, that supplies 5v/5mA output and a battery bank 10,000 mAh also works great for running it..
Tia
 
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I just found this info out, it is AI based and I don't trust it, fwiw,

The Garmin GPSMAP 67/67i operates on a built-in, rechargeable lithium-ion battery.
The battery has a specification of 3.8V and 3100 mAh.
Important Notes:
  • Charging: The device can be charged using any commercially available charger designed for USB devices.
  • Garmin recommends using a power adapter that supports between 5V/1A (5W) and 5V/3A (15W) for charging.
  • Not User Replaceable: The battery is not removable or replaceable by the user.
  • External Power: The GPSMAP 67i can also be powered by a compatible external power supply, such as an AC USB-C charger or a 12v DC power source?? like a vehicle power cable. This allows you to preserve the internal battery life when external power is available.
How can it use a 12v DC power source?,
When Garmin recommends 5v/15w max for charging,
Is not that 7v difference quite a bit?

I am NOT following this info, JDLR = just don't look right.
Tia
 
@stompandgo is a hardware engineer. Perhaps he can clarify. I think you’d need to have some converter electronics to connect to a 12V power source. As it is, your 48V or 52V battery power is being converted to 5V to power your display. But, I’m a little out of my wheelhouse here.

I’m really betting, NV, that if your display’s USB can charge the Garmin 60, it’ll work for the 67i. Ultimately, it comes down to how many watts of power the display electronics will allow the Garmin to draw from the display through the USB cable. Batteries get charged by “pulling” current, not the other way around. If I recall correctly, the limitations are imposed by the charger side (being drawn from), not the charging device. Not that this information helps you. :) I’ll shut up now as my ignorance is showing. :D
 
Legacy USB (A, Micro, Mini) is 5V nominal at 1.5A. USB-C can go up to 20V and 5A. I have an old Garmin Nuvi GPS on my desk that charges by mini-USB at 5V. My guess is that's what yours needs as well.
 
Thanks Guys
The only type of charging cables I can find are:
USB (A) to USB (C),
or
USB (C) to USB (C)
see OEM info here:
www.garmin.com

Garmin GPSMAP® 67i | Handheld GPS & Satellite Communicator

GPSMAP 67i is a handheld GPS and satellite communicator with two-way messaging, SOS alerts, location sharing, and a battery life of up to 165 hours.
www.garmin.com www.garmin.com

There is a USB (C) plug in in the back of these 67 models of gps.

This type of electrical/power stuff just scrambles my brain...
what little bit I have left...lol

I know that I have a a USB (A) to mini/macro that fit the 60csx GPS
and the USB (A) fits the display, and works perfectly.
Tia
Don
 
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