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Would anyone consider reviewing this bike? TIA
Luna Fat BABE (Bad Ass Belt Ebike)
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Yeah, forget about bluetooth or app for the M600. Luna initially claimed their Ludi controller for the M600 would have a screwdriver setting to dial up or down the power but that turned out to be vaporware. If they couldn't make that happen I doubt app support is coming any time soon.
The eggrider display provides app for the Ultra/BBS02/BBSHD but the M600 uses a different protocol. Sounds like the exess controller for the Ultra motor also lets you program it via app.
Have you checked out the FLX blade 2.0? That's another belt / IGH option with twice the power (and price tag) with the Ultra motor.
Blade 2.0 - 1000W Belt Drive eMTB
A huge 52V battery combines with belt-driven 1000W mid-drive power to take your off-road shred session to the next level! The Blade is one of the HOTTEST bikes on the market ever since it was released.flx.bike
Yeah, forget about bluetooth or app for the M600. Luna initially claimed their Ludi controller for the M600 would have a screwdriver setting to dial up or down the power but that turned out to be vaporware. If they couldn't make that happen I doubt app support is coming any time soon.
The eggrider display provides app for the Ultra/BBS02/BBSHD but the M600 uses a different protocol. Sounds like the exess controller for the Ultra motor also lets you program it via app.
Have you checked out the FLX blade 2.0? That's another belt / IGH option with twice the power (and price tag) with the Ultra motor.
Blade 2.0 - 1000W Belt Drive eMTB
A huge 52V battery combines with belt-driven 1000W mid-drive power to take your off-road shred session to the next level! The Blade is one of the HOTTEST bikes on the market ever since it was released.flx.bike
Surprising to see FLX one upping Luna with a legit bad ass belt ebike. Then again, maybe Luna has something waiting in the wings.
There is a new model coming out that will beat both of these bikes if urban mobility is your need.
These are nice ebikes but obviously both Luna and FLX are sourcing the same basic frame (while calling it their own design) and configuring it similarly (mainly the Bafang motors models are different).
There is a new model coming out that will beat both of these bikes if urban mobility is your need.
1) I don't see where Luna claims the frame is their own design. I recall when their X-1 came out, Luna was very clear the frame wasn't their own design. When I was picking up my Apollo at Luna, someone else was picking up their X-1. He asked them what the differences were and the first thing out of the Luna employee's mouth was the frame and where the bikes were assembled - even before talking about Ultra vs M600 motors.
That said, the FLX's website video does claim they designed the frame for the Blade 2.0.
2) The frames look different enough to me that they are probably not made by the same company. Design copying is rampant in China, still. It could be that the same company makes two different versions for the two different motors, and in that process varies some of the other aspects as well, but that doesn't seem likely. Take a close look at the rear and you'll see two different solutions to the rear-entry/split frame design necessitated by the belt drive. That's the kind of detail I don't think they'd change just to support different motors.
3) With the Luna being a true fat tire (4" wide) hardtail, I don't feel it's designed for urban mobility purposes. Sure, people will use it that way, but that's not the design intent.
FLX is taking a different approach with the Blade 2.0, even including a "Touring" configuration with comfort seat, suspension seatpost, racks, fenders, lights, etc. Its tire size is 27.5x2.6" .
The FLX Blade 2.0 is twice the price of the BABE. For FLX kind of money Luna already has two different full-suspension, all carbon bikes, one of which can be upgraded to the Rohloff.
I haven't seen the Apex show up as available to purchase since Luna's Mesolithic Age and price with Rohloff is $8K + shipping. Once in a blue moon the Apollo shows up in stock but can't be purchased with Rohloff. If you add $100 for shipping and $500 for 1 year warranty the BABE is $3350. The Blade 2.0 is $5K (although can be brought down a little with referral code). So price difference without Rohloff is $1650. Luna charges $1790 for Rohloff so the Blade 2.0 is theoretically not that much more all things considered.
Luna charges $1790 for Rohloff so the Blade 2.0 is theoretically not that much more all things considered.
hello ken. can you share any more info such as links, photos, etc about this possible new bike? is there a facebook page?It's a new project model by PIM (or at least they are involved). It will be similiar to the FLX and Luna models but will be more urban mobility focused. Bafang M620 Ultra (may have an external custom controller but I can't get details on that yet), 825wh external mount battery but still integrated to the frame (internal batteries reduce structural rigidity of the frame and serve no purpose but to hide that it's an ebike but this bike will yell out that it's an ebike), staggered street tires (likely 26x3 rear and 27.5x2.4-2.8 front), mag wheels will be an option on a fixie model (IGH on spokes wheels std.), carbon front fork with integrated carbon bars (they believe the tires will provide enough suspension for most riders but air forks will be an option for those "less serious" riders), rear rack, lights, fenders, etc. It's more down the lines of the Watt Wagon such that it's intended to supplement owning a car. It will be standard as a class 1/2 (PAS & throttle) to 20mph but will have an "off-road" mode allowing PAS and throttle upwards of 55kph.
I believe they will have an organic campaign on this bike soon. 100% assured of delivery or money back guarantee and I know the price will be below $3,000, maybe $2,499 or less for the fixie (the idea is that with that much power gears to optimize human effort are not really essential so the idea is to optimize rider input at set cruise speeds based on gear ratio of the fixie).
I believe putting knobby tires on a hard tail ebike doesn't make much sense because most mtn bikes are simply going full suspension and knobbies can never match the handling on pavement of street tires.