Levo SL - De-restrict?

[Stefan Mikes]

Ahh maybe im thinking of how the full motor bikes have a "cutoff" and you notice right away

The SL e-bikes are not equipped with the full power motor. It is the "Super Lightweight" motor, same as in Creo SL, Vado SL, Como SL, Levo SL, and Kenevo SL. Low power, low weight, soft transition above the restrictor speed.

 

[Gee_Whiz]

The SL e-bikes are not equipped with the full power motor. It is the "Super Lightweight" motor, same as in Creo SL, Vado SL, Como SL, Levo SL, and Kenevo SL. Low power, low weight, soft transition above the restrictor speed.

Oh I know, I was just describing the effect that you get on the full bikes

 

[Stefan Mikes]

Oh I know, I was just describing the effect that you get on the full bikes

The fact is the transition above the speed restrictor on big e-bikes is so painful because you were getting, say, 500 W of assistance to suddenly be left with zero. That hurts! Now, an SL e-bike: You pedal with say 150 own Watts and are assisted with 80. If you gradually lose the 80 W of assistance, it is perceived as a smooth transition

 

[PDoz]

Stefan, I have mine set at 65/100 in trail mode, so if I'm putting a full 200 ish watts through the cranks as I desperately try and ckear a gap jump, the motor give 100 % xtra assistance ( up to the 230 w limit spesh allows) - I think that's around 35 nm of torque at anything over 70 cadence ? So when the power assistance stops at 25 kph , I can definitely feel the difference - my acceleration halves.

Whilst I accept you don't feel this on a road section, it's definitely noticeable if you are hoping for that assistance to accelerate enough to clear a gap jump!!!

A few years back I had a torque sensor intermittent fault on my giant, I punched really hard at the crank to clear a tight rocky section and the motor didn't deliver as expected. The extra unexpected force was enough to tear one of my quads off the patellar tendon. So I do understand the difference between an sl cutting out and a full power bike cutting out - but both can be painful at the wrong time. The difference imho is that a derestricted sl isn't likely to hurtle you along at motorbike speeds, simply because it doesn't produce heaps of torque - so I feel less socially irresponsible about the prospect of derestricting one ( 2 months of warranty left, so it's not happening yet)

 

[TXPearl]

Hmm.. @TXPearl Is that the same on the Kenevo to your knowledge?

Looks like most of the Kenovo models have a 94BCD/32T chainring, except for the Alloy version (104BCD).

 

[TXPearl]

BTW , I think 34 T is the max chainwheel that fits, if you are hoping to ride at higher speeds make sure you select a version with xd hub so the smallest rear cog is 10 T ( rather than the 11 on the nx cassete / hg hub that some of the base models get)

That's right, I just noticed that my 34T chainring just barely clears the chainstay where it angles out from the bottom bracket. I don't see how anything larger would fit. This is on the Levo SL. On the wife's full power Levo, there's a little more room.

 

[Stefan Mikes]

@PDoz: I understand the matter of clearing a gap on jumps. You certainly can spin the crank as a madman but it is a burst.
What not everybody here fully understands is the fact Whiz is not looking for an e-MTB. He's looking for the best jack-of-all-trades. Levo SL won't be such an e-bike.

 

[Gee_Whiz]

@PDoz: I understand the matter of clearing a gap on jumps. You certainly can spin the crank as a madman but it is a burst.
What not everybody here fully understands is the fact Whiz is not looking for an e-MTB. He's looking for the best jack-of-all-trades. Levo SL won't be such an e-bike.

Lol I'm just learning about the different bikes available and how they function. Brose and Levo vs SL vs Bosch vs Fauza vs Shimano RS etc. The weights, geometrys, motors etc all seem to matter in what makes the overall of the bike