I never agreed with Peta until today.

Speaking of cases where we pay a lot for poor services... Does it bother any of you that this murder case is getting a lot more attention and resources because of who this guy was. Certainly law enforcement wouldn't put as much effort if a regular guy had been murdered on the street in New Yawk in front of the Hilton.

Also, United Health Care mostly focuses on Medicare Advantage plans, and the murderer (we think) looks like a young guy. So I suspect the story behind the murder is more complex than the health insurance company screwing him over.
I'm sure he has older family.
UA constantly solicits my mother for an Advantage plan. Not one of her doctors is in the plan and when I ask them about it... They're like no way, they never pay.

He was on his way to an investors meeting... and that's where their priorities focus.

Meanwhile I deal directly with Medicare for mom and have zero issues and the doctors are happy.
 
If you haven't been paying attention, this guy, the shooter, already has men and women ready to line up and perform sexual favors for him. Who knew that unlike coal rolling, killing hmo ceo's actually drops panties? They are still dragging Thompson and anyone who defends him across social media. Check any platform or news source; There just isn't any sympathy for the devil on this one. This really is an "I'm Spartacus" moment for the 50 and under crowd.

At least for now we have a new American folk hero. Expect a higher turn out durring mid terms, if not, expect more Brian Thompsons. It's not what I want, but when those in power living the dream ignore those without living the american nigtmare, well, we get what we get. As for me, I'm with the kids. At the time of the shooting that guy was here in Michigan helping me clear my driveway, God's honest truth officer....

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Does it bother any of you that this murder case is getting a lot more attention and resources because of who this guy was. Certainly law enforcement wouldn't put as much effort if a regular guy had been murdered on the street in New Yawk in front of the Hilton
Aside from higher media coverage, what makes you think law enforcement is utilizing more resources?
Also, United Health Care mostly focuses on Medicare Advantage plans,
Could you point to stats that show UHC focuses primarily on MA? Here is a reference that disagrees bigly:

 
At least for now we have a new American folk hero. Expect a higher turn out durring mid terms, if not, expect more Brian Thompsons. It's not what I want, but when those in power living the dream ignore those without living the american nigtmare, well, we get what we get. As for me, I'm with the kids. At the time of the shooting that guy was here in Michigan helping me clear my driveway, God's honest truth officer....
Definitely a lot of sickos in this country; mental illness issue.
 
Aside from higher media coverage, what makes you think law enforcement is utilizing more resources?

Could you point to stats that show UHC focuses primarily on MA? Here is a reference that disagrees bigly:

A reference provided by the company itself?
You find this to be the best source?
If so... I've got some paste to sell you that let's you make a boat out of chicken wire 🤣

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A reference provided by the company itself?
You find this to be the best source?
So, provide a different source that describes their clientele more accurately.

Chicken wire is the base for many boat building competitions. Excellent for shape forming and reinforcement. Seen competitions using different materials to cover the mesh. Not familiar with the paste but would be interested in it to see if it is better for outdoor status than other materials. Source for paste?
 
Aside from higher media coverage, what makes you think law enforcement is utilizing more resources?

Could you point to stats that show UHC focuses primarily on MA? Here is a reference that disagrees bigly:

I should have made myself more clear. Medicare Advantage Plans have 2-3 times the gross margin of normal health plans, so they make much more money off of them.


So even with the claimed number of customers they are making quite a bit more money ripping off old people.

We still do not know what the motive was with this murder. Yes, United Health Care is notorious for ripping off its customers, and you can wonder how wise that policy is in the world of 2024.
 
I should have made myself more clear. Medicare Advantage Plans have 2-3 times the gross margin of normal health plans, so they make much more money off of them
Thanks for the clarification. Where'd you get the GM information?
So even with the claimed number of customers they are making quite a bit more money ripping off old people.
Curious how they are ripping off old people. I'll assume you mean MA customers, of which my wife and I are. We pay nothing more for MA through UHC, just what our Medicare premium is. Our benefits are greater than Original Medicare. Everyone of our Drs. (except dentist) is in UHC provider catalog, MA includes drug coverage (no part D premium except for IRMAA). The only negative I've heard is lower reimbursement rate for mental health providers. Have never had procedure denied.
 
As the OP, me right now. I'm ambivalent. My praxis isn't keeping up with my Ethics:

How I feel in the morning:
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How I feel after a day of trying to pull myself up by my bootstraps
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Got lucky and made it out to go grocerie shopping today. Loaded up as many carts at Aldi's with quarters as I could ($2) and smiled at a couple who saw what I was doing. I said, "I think for a lot of us, for the next 4 years, it's the little things that will get us through." She agreed wholeheartedly and wished me a merry christmass. I returned the sentiment. I hope everyone at least tries to be a little kinder to each other in the coming years.
 
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The more I look at these shooter pictures the more I think the guy looks like a old coworker. This guy, Clint, got ripped off by his moms boyfriend on more than one occasion. Heck, I'll just tell you what happened!

Clint was living at home and his mom was dating a long haul trucker. His route went thru the Nevada area (cat house anyone?) on a regular basis. So, moms boyfriend tells Clint "Give me your paychecks and I'll invest your money and make you a millionaire by the time you're 35!". So Clint is taking all the overtime he can, figuring he'll be able to retire even earlier. He was in his early 20's at the time. I asked him to pull the prospectus of investments and I'll have my hedge fund investor friend look it over as a courtesy. He said "I trust him (trucker) plus I don't want to bother him." The trucker was giving Clint "allowance" to pay his car note and a tiny bit of extra money every week for "fun", like a whopping $40! Okay.......so....

So Clint leaves a local bar around 2am and puts his relatively new Prius in a small ditch. He can't get it out by himself so he calls the POLICE to help him! The officer shows up and has him do a breathalyzer and Clint blows over the limit. Mom bails Clint out and gets his car out of impound BUT the front wheel is messed up and it wont drive, so Clint panics. Moms boyfriend looks at the car and says "It'll cost more to fix it than its worth, so my friend will give you $500 for it as-is." Clint SELLS the car to the truckers friend for $500! I saw the totaled Prius on the road a few days later, a teenage girl was driving it. Clint buys a new Prius but his insurance was stupid high from the DUI. So......

Clint ask the trucker for extra money to cover the new extra bills. The trucker hooks Clint up with a part time job at a flea market helping a tool vendor setting up/tearing down his tool display. Clint had to be at the flea marker at 6am on Sat. and Sun. and gets trapped there ALL day because the guy who owned the booth would come in late, just to collect the daily money. Clint made $25 for both days and was thrilled, like a little kid at Christmas!

Clint gets tired of me drilling him everyday and insist on getting the prospectus from the trucker to shut me up. Around this time the trucker got in a fight with Clints mom and just vanished, WITH OVER 7 YEARS OF CLINTS "INVESTMENT" MONEY! Clint was so mad he became a gun nut overnight! Clint ended up quitting my job and moved away and became a drag queen, well he was posting pictures of himself dressed up in full drag. I know he was in Texas for awhile and then moved again but he went radio silent, deleting all his social media accounts without any explanation. I'm being serious when I say this shooters smile and face looks just like Clint. Clint was okay to talk to but he had a spooky silent steak, I think it was from all the stress.

Sorry so long but I still wonder if this is Clint in those APB photos. He lives a stressed life AND he loves guns. I wonder if his mom passed recently, or another family member he cared about?
 
The more I look at these shooter pictures the more I think the guy looks like a old coworker. This guy, Clint, got ripped off by his moms boyfriend on more than one occasion. Heck, I'll just tell you what happened!

Clint was living at home and his mom was dating a long haul trucker. His route went thru the Nevada area (cat house anyone?) on a regular basis. So, moms boyfriend tells Clint "Give me your paychecks and I'll invest your money and make you a millionaire by the time you're 35!". So Clint is taking all the overtime he can, figuring he'll be able to retire even earlier. He was in his early 20's at the time. I asked him to pull the prospectus of investments and I'll have my hedge fund investor friend look it over as a courtesy. He said "I trust him (trucker) plus I don't want to bother him." The trucker was giving Clint "allowance" to pay his car note and a tiny bit of extra money every week for "fun", like a whopping $40! Okay.......so....

So Clint leaves a local bar around 2am and puts his relatively new Prius in a small ditch. He can't get it out by himself so he calls the POLICE to help him! The officer shows up and has him do a breathalyzer and Clint blows over the limit. Mom bails Clint out and gets his car out of impound BUT the front wheel is messed up and it wont drive, so Clint panics. Moms boyfriend looks at the car and says "It'll cost more to fix it than its worth, so my friend will give you $500 for it as-is." Clint SELLS the car to the truckers friend for $500! I saw the totaled Prius on the road a few days later, a teenage girl was driving it. Clint buys a new Prius but his insurance was stupid high from the DUI. So......

Clint ask the trucker for extra money to cover the new extra bills. The trucker hooks Clint up with a part time job at a flea market helping a tool vendor setting up/tearing down his tool display. Clint had to be at the flea marker at 6am on Sat. and Sun. and gets trapped there ALL day because the guy who owned the booth would come in late, just to collect the daily money. Clint made $25 for both days and was thrilled, like a little kid at Christmas!

Clint gets tired of me drilling him everyday and insist on getting the prospectus from the trucker to shut me up. Around this time the trucker got in a fight with Clints mom and just vanished, WITH OVER 7 YEARS OF CLINTS "INVESTMENT" MONEY! Clint was so mad he became a gun nut overnight! Clint ended up quitting my job and moved away and became a drag queen, well he was posting pictures of himself dressed up in full drag. I know he was in Texas for awhile and then moved again but he went radio silent, deleting all his social media accounts without any explanation. I'm being serious when I say this shooters smile and face looks just like Clint. Clint was okay to talk to but he had a spooky silent steak, I think it was from all the stress.

Sorry so long but I still wonder if this is Clint in those APB photos. He lives a stressed life AND he loves guns. I wonder if his mom passed recently, or another family member he cared about?
Well dayum... that story sucks no matter what the outcome!
 
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