Grin eBikes.ca does it again Android Phaserunner app!

[tomjasz]

Yikes here we go... another reason to dump my iPhone for Android. More eBike stuff with Android.

Phaserunner Suite - Apps on Google Play

Configuration interface to Phaserunner or Baserunner controllers by Grin.

play.google.com

 

[Dewey]

Nice, it makes sense to use a phone to adjust controller parameters, I appreciate I can hook up a laptop to my bafang motor but its a bit ungainly trying to work on my bike outdoors balancing a laptop on one knee

 

[tomjasz]

Nice, it makes sense to use a phone to adjust controller parameters, I appreciate I can hook up a laptop to my bafang motor but its a bit ungainly trying to work on my bike outdoors balancing a laptop on one knee

EggRider!

 

[Dewey]

EggRider!

Bluetooth, nice!

 

[tomjasz]

TBH mine sits in my parts box. I have a Grin programming cable with an adapter from a DE Higo connector source. The cable is nearly 10 feet long. I very seldom, and later never change any programming. Once it's done initially, I'm usually done! I recently loaded Windoze 10 on my MacBook Air and will likely go back and just record the settings for our support wiki.

 

[Feliz]

​

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[Feliz]

Tom, that post is for your benefit but it got all screwed up, it's from an email I received from Hilleater. What do you think of the Grin Edition they're coming out with?

 

[tomjasz]

Tom, that post is for your benefit but it got all screwed up, it's from an email I received from Hilleater. What do you think of the Grin Edition they're coming out with?

WOW!!!! eeZee AND GMAC options! NCX seat post option, Mirrcycle Mirror, and Ergo grips too! Nice gear and keeping it in a decent budget!

The GMAC 10T 7% grade at 19MPH running 20A

OOPS I ran the simulator with a 48V! 52V makes it almost 20MPH! And a solid 28MPH. Add Grin warranty and quality for the win!

 

[Feliz]

WOW!!!! eeZee AND GMAC options! NCX seat post option, Mirrcycle Mirror, and Ergo grips too! Nice gear and keeping it in a decent budget!

The GMAC 10T 7% grade at 19MPH running 20A

OOPS I ran the simulator with a 48V! 52V makes it almost 20MPH! And a solid 28MPH. Add Grin warranty and quality for the win!

They're saying mid 50s km/hr, I'll be able to ride to Minnesota to see you for the weekend. They say it's all tuneable from the cockpit using Grin electronics. How would they do that?

 

[tomjasz]

If they use a Grin controller and CA3 the tuning options are amazing. Including regen braking. The biggest criticism of the CA3 is the lack of full color display. But me... I go riding, not watching a display!

 

[AHicks]

The GMAC option is not just about torque/speed/acceleration, it's just as much about regen. And then, it's regen on a whole new level. With this, we are talking about variable regen that can effectively bring the bike down into the low single digits at a rate controlled by the rider. Now, we're not talking about something that's only effective in the hills. We're talking about regen that can be used effectively in stop and go traffic. We're also talking about a system that can actually be counted on to put a useful amount of charge back into the battery....

Grin has a home run here IMHO. I'd be interested in what the option runs on this bike....

 

[opimax]

i live near a 100 mile flat trail in Ga. when I go riding all I need is a powerful WORKING bike. I like hub motors. even if the Juiced stories are all not true , still too many issues for me. This could be work for me if it ”works” . I am tempted to get a nice R&M except the mid drive and motor/shift pause drive me nuts. Also if I ride almost 500 miles a week I could be replacing a chain every 2-3 weeks or chnging oil in Rollhof every 2 weeks. I would prefer a DD but I am at least willing to deal with it . I currently have a geared hub also BH Nitro. It is noisy and still a little clunky compared to my DD Stromer.

@Thomas, serious question. The Stromer does hills ok doesn’t over heat , what did they do right or why can’t a Mac do the same?

 

[tomjasz]

i live near a 100 mile flat trail in Ga. when I go riding all I need is a powerful WORKING bike. I like hub motors. even if the Juiced stories are all not true , still too many issues for me. This could be work for me if it ”works” . I am tempted to get a nice R&M except the mid drive and motor/shift pause drive me nuts. Also if I ride almost 500 miles a week I could be replacing a chain every 2-3 weeks or chnging oil in Rollhof every 2 weeks. I would prefer a DD but I am at least willing to deal with it . I currently have a geared hub also BH Nitro. It is noisy and still a little clunky compared to my DD Stromer.

@Thomas, serious question. The Stromer does hills ok doesn’t over heat , what did they do right or why can’t a Mac do the same?

What is the motor? What are the grades you climb?

 

[AHicks]

I know it probably won't be a popular choice.

But if GMAC was about regen, I think it would make more sense to mount it front.

My brake pads wear out probably 3 times faster on front.

I would never do that. Can you imagine downshifting your motorcycle at a max rate with the potential your front wheel may loose traction? On my bike, it would have nothing to do with brake pad life. I'm generally not riding that hard for starters.

 

[AHicks]

From what I've read, I would say loosing traction very possible with a GMAC, especially when considering the different surfaces you might be running on.

 

[JRA]

The Cycle Anylapp lives! Probably not a headline news story as the use of apps is available for other systems. However following their success with their CA displays that allowed fine tuning of all parameters and have for years I am sure their version is probably one of the most comprehensive available.

I have two bikes with front hub motors from Grin, 9c and Any Axle that have regen set at the highest level that I operate via a momentary switch button I have mounted on the inside of the brake hood. 99% if the time it is the first braking option I apply, especially in town when dealing with lots of stop signs/lights. It also sees lots of use as a drag brake/speed checker on long dh’s.

If Grin came out with a front hub version/thru axle/integrated torque arm/32h drilling GMAC I’d have one in a heartbeat.

I could care less about regen on my mtb though and find a torque sensing PAS mid drive and some hyd disc brakes to work best for that purpose.

 

[tomjasz]

Grin just announced their plug and play kits are available. Now we have quality kits!

Dont forget to check out the Ebikes.ca motor simulator.

Motor Simulator - Tools

Our ebike motor simulator allows you to easily simulate the different performance characteristics of different ebike setups - with a wide selection of hub motors modeled, and the ability to add custom batteries and controllers and set a wide variety of vehicle parameters you'll be able to see...

www.ebikes.ca

Kits by Type - Shop

Here our conversion kits are organized by general kit type, so you can see all the conversion systems available in a given category. The Barebones kits have no display with throttle only control, while the Cycle Analyst V3 systems have a range of advanced control options.

www.ebikes.ca

 

[AHicks]

JRA, are either of those front drives gear driven? If not, I don't think you are giving the GMAC enough credit for it's braking ability. At speed with a GMAC (say 25mph), if you were to use a momentary switch for full available regen, you may be dealing with a loss of traction. Remember, the GMAC is gear driven, at a rate of 5:1. This means that it will be spinning 5 times as fast as a direct drive, and providing 5 times as much regen braking power. That's why the GMAC regen is variable. You would not want just an on/off switch on it! With the brake circuit energized, the software turns the throttle into a variable brake to give you some control over just how much brake you want to use. This might vary from providing "drag" while going down a hill, to coming to nearly a full stop at a stop sign (something no direct drive regen can come close to duplicating).

 

[JRA]

Yes both bikes are dd motors and also have the option of variable regen via the throttle. I have no issues with the fact that a geared hub motor will potentially have stronger regen but it is still a pretty small motor that including the weight of bike and rider to me it’s doubtful that even at full regen it has the ability to lock up a wheel.

I’ll try one out next time I’m up there and see for myself. I still wouldn’t be interested in one until my above stated perimeters were met.