Greetings from Greece 🇬🇷 New member!

[arestzam]

Good morning,

I joined this forum yesterday in order to know more about my E-bikd Beast Deluxe scooter.

Hope all things well with you!

Nice to meet you!

Aris
Athens, Greece

 

[Stefan Mikes]

I thought it was not an electric motorcycle Forum...

 

[arestzam]

I thought it was not an electric motorcycle Forum...

There is a Daymak section for Electric Bikes on this forum. I joined this discussion in order to post my queries and resolve technical issues from other members!

 

[tomjasz]

There is a Daymak section for Electric Bikes on this forum. I joined this discussion in order to post my queries and resolve technical issues from other members!

Welcome. That’s not a popular vehicle here but never mind the peanut gallery.

Pay no attention to pissy. He’s not a moderator. Just the resident pretentious putz specializing in blather. I think spandex is an Hallucinogen.

what in the world is the car behind you?

 

[Stefan Mikes]

That thing used to have pedals, too.

Nobody sane would have named it "a bike".

 

[tomjasz]

Every old school Harley rider I‘ve known calls their ride a bike.


Definitions from Oxford Languages
bike
noun

1. a bicycle or motorcycle.
"I'm going by bike"


verb
INFORMAL

1. ride a bicycle or motorcycle.

 

[Stefan Mikes]

Every old school Harley rider I‘ve known calls their ride a bike.

What you can see in the pictures above (the OPs and mine) is a "moped" (with pedals as a decoration and leg support). I only hope the Greek guy has registered his moped and pays the third party liability insurance.

Definitions from Oxford Languages
bike
noun

1. a bicycle or motorcycle.
"I'm going by bike"


verb
INFORMAL

1. ride a bicycle or motorcycle.

Is it what Schopenhauer named "the diversion argument"?

You are good at all of them Tom. Especially in the method #38:
The following lists the 38 stratagems described by Schopenhauer, in the order of their appearance in the book:

1. The Extension (Dana's Law)
2. The Homonymy
3. Generalize Your Opponent's Specific Statements
4. Conceal Your Game
5. False Propositions
6. Postulate What Has to Be Proved
7. Yield Admissions Through Questions
8. Make Your Opponent Angry
9. Questions in Detouring Order
10. Take Advantage of the Nay-Sayer
11. Generalize Admissions of Specific Cases
12. Choose Metaphors Favourable to Your Proposition
13. Agree to Reject the Counter-Proposition
14. Claim Victory Despite Defeat
15. Use Seemingly Absurd Propositions
16. Arguments Ad Hominem
17. Defense Through Subtle Distinction
18. Interrupt, Break, Divert the Dispute
19. Generalize the Matter, Then Argue Against it
20. Draw Conclusions Yourself
21. Meet Him With a Counter-Argument as Bad as His
22. Petitio principii
23. Make Him Exaggerate His Statement
24. State a False Syllogism
25. Find One Instance to the Contrary
26. Turn the Tables
27. Anger Indicates a Weak Point
28. Persuade the Audience, Not the Opponent
29. Diversion
30. Appeal to Authority Rather Than Reason
31. This Is Beyond Me
32. Put His Thesis into Some Odious Category
33. It Applies in Theory, but Not in Practice
34. Don't Let Him Off the Hook
35. Will Is More Effective Than Insight
36. Bewilder Your opponent by Mere Bombast
37. A Faulty Proof Refutes His Whole Position
38. Become Personal, Insulting, Rude (argumentum ad personam)

 

[tomjasz]

moped

And “moped” is often used by USA english speakers referencing unknown brand of Vespa or Vespa like vehicles.

You have your specialized talent when it comes to any kit builders or non spandex brains.

 

[Stefan Mikes]

And “moped” is often used by USA english speakers referencing unknown brand of Vespa or Vespa like vehicles.

That's correct. Not a bicycle.
I do happen to own and ride a European moped. I have registered it, have a number plate on it and pay the insurance. The name is Specialized Turbo Vado 6.0. The main difference compared to Daymak is you need to pedal the thing to ride. No throttle.

"Mr. Driver, why do you harass me with your honking?"
"There is a bicycle path along! Get off the road!"
"With all respect, it is not a bicycle what I'm riding"
"So what's that?!"
"It is a moped. Are you blind? Cannot see the number plate?"

 

[tomjasz]

That's correct. Not a bicycle.
I do happen to own and ride a European moped. I have registered it, have a number plate on it and pay the insurance. The name is Specialized Turbo Vado 6.0. The main difference compared to Daymak is you need to pedal the thing to ride. No throttle

WWWWW...Wrong just isn’t in your English lexicon.

 

[Stefan Mikes]

WWWWW...Wrong just isn’t in your English lexicon.

Arguments please. Not personal attacks.
Because that man Schopenhauer wrote: "Whoever tries the personal argument (argumentum ad personam), he lost because the last argument was just used by him".

 

[tomjasz]

Your arrogance is stifling. That’s not argumentum ad personam. It’s your consistent need to chide anyone or thing that doesn’t interest you. Or isn’t an over priced Bosch. How your demonstrably narrow view manages to feel like the high ground, is, well, boorish. Why not just bypass a thread.

 

[Stefan Mikes]

Your arrogance is stifling. That’s not argumentum ad personam. It’s your consistent need to chide anyone or thing that doesn’t interest you. Or isn’t an over priced Bosch. How your demonstrably narrow view manages to feel like the high ground, is, well, boorish.

Name a single non personal argument in these four sentences.
On-topic: I gladly hope the Daymak comes with the EU Certificate of Compliance, is registered, insured, and ridden outside bike paths. The law of most EU countries reads an L1e-B moped can be equipped with a motor up to 4 kW, the speed shall be restricted to 45 km/h, and pedalling is not required to operate the moped. Wearing the helmet is mandatory. The same rules as for L1e-B ICE mopeds.

 

[tomjasz]

Name a single non personal argument in these four sentences.
On-topic: I gladly hope the Daymak comes with the EU Certificate of Compliance, is registered, insured, and ridden outside bike paths. The law of most EU countries reads an L1e-B moped can be equipped with a motor up to 4 kW, the speed shall be restricted to 45 km/h, and pedalling is not required to operate the moped. Wearing the helmet is mandatory. The same rules as for L1e-B ICE mopeds.

You earned your merit badge.

 

[DavidRvR]

What you can see in the pictures above (the OPs and mine) is a "moped" (with pedals as a decoration and leg support). I only hope the Greek guy has registered his moped and pays the third party liability insurance.

Is it what Schopenhauer named "the diversion argument"?

You are good at all of them Tom. Especially in the method #38:
The following lists the 38 stratagems described by Schopenhauer, in the order of their appearance in the book:

1. The Extension (Dana's Law)
2. The Homonymy
3. Generalize Your Opponent's Specific Statements
4. Conceal Your Game
5. False Propositions
6. Postulate What Has to Be Proved
7. Yield Admissions Through Questions
8. Make Your Opponent Angry
9. Questions in Detouring Order
10. Take Advantage of the Nay-Sayer
11. Generalize Admissions of Specific Cases
12. Choose Metaphors Favourable to Your Proposition
13. Agree to Reject the Counter-Proposition
14. Claim Victory Despite Defeat
15. Use Seemingly Absurd Propositions
16. Arguments Ad Hominem
17. Defense Through Subtle Distinction
18. Interrupt, Break, Divert the Dispute
19. Generalize the Matter, Then Argue Against it
20. Draw Conclusions Yourself
21. Meet Him With a Counter-Argument as Bad as His
22. Petitio principii
23. Make Him Exaggerate His Statement
24. State a False Syllogism
25. Find One Instance to the Contrary
26. Turn the Tables
27. Anger Indicates a Weak Point
28. Persuade the Audience, Not the Opponent
29. Diversion
30. Appeal to Authority Rather Than Reason
31. This Is Beyond Me
32. Put His Thesis into Some Odious Category
33. It Applies in Theory, but Not in Practice
34. Don't Let Him Off the Hook
35. Will Is More Effective Than Insight
36. Bewilder Your opponent by Mere Bombast
37. A Faulty Proof Refutes His Whole Position
38. Become Personal, Insulting, Rude (argumentum ad personam)

Isnt this kinda the pot calling the kettle black? Irony..

Welcome to the forum arestzam... Hope you get all your questions answered and mold in with the rest of us.. I gave Stefan the benefit of the doubt at first.. didnt take long before he lost the benefit.