kattanm
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Good point. I’ve now hijacked the thread, but my LBS knows how much I absolutely love my Creo SL, and they said even though I’m an MTB newbie I will also love the Levo SL to the point where I’ll ride it in snow! Is this true?
Ever take your Vado off road?
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No worries... the Smart Sam comes in 35 and 40 mm widths for Hybrids.
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What about two inchNo worries... the Smart Sam comes in 35 and 40 mm widths for Hybrids.
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ONE FOR ALL. An impressive, perennial favorite with excellent all-round properties. For MTB riders who frequently switch between road and offroad terrain.The modern, distinctive off-road tread design stands out due to the dense center lugs, which provide…
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You wouldn't fit the 2.1". Not sure about 1.75"Looks like 1.75" or 2.1" are also available.
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Does the particular Vado model matter, like does the 5 SL (no fenders) accommodate a wider tire?
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The Smart Sam Plus is available in various sizes including 700 x 40 cm in the US... along with ECE-R75 certification.
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Millimeters I won't change my Electraks to thinner tyres, though. Off-road grip is one thing but thicker tyre cushioning is important to me. Minimal noise and low rolling resistance as well as excellent road grip of Electraks are the factors I chose the Vado as the road and gravel bike. Add to that Electraks are as impenetrable as elephant's skin.
I won't change my Electraks to thinner tyres, though. Off-road grip is one thing but thicker tyre cushioning is important to me. Minimal noise and low rolling resistance as well as excellent road grip of Electraks are the factors I chose the Vado as the road and gravel bike. Add to that Electraks are as impenetrable as elephant's skin.
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Refreshing the thread.
You were talking a lot about Smart Sam. I can buy a pair in size 28x1.75" for my Vado. The reason is to ride in light off-road terrain (I plan such a ride with Vado). Do you recommend the purchase? (Can do it right now).
You were talking a lot about Smart Sam. I can buy a pair in size 28x1.75" for my Vado. The reason is to ride in light off-road terrain (I plan such a ride with Vado). Do you recommend the purchase? (Can do it right now).
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Thanks for the feedback... I recommend the purchase and like the Schwalbe Smart Sam as a nice compromise between on-road efficiency and off-road grip.
With the compact central tread rib for the road, ECE-R75 certification, and level 6 puncture protection... you get the best of both worlds for all terrain types.
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See my #26.
And keep in mind that a nobby tire doesn't run as smooth on tarred roads.
But it's the right tire for your project.
Guess what my motorbike is suitable for:
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Certainly, Smart Sam will be noisy on blacktop, so that won't be a permanent solution.
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If you want a Schwalbe tire better suited to blacktop... the Marathon Plus MTB is the best choice.
It has a continuous smooth center rib combined with off-road tread and the highest level 7 protection.
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I hear you, FlatSix. I'll tell you what. I use Marathon E-Plus (non MTB) on my third e-bike and am not quite happy. Indestructible? I had a puncture on a Marathon E-Plus. (Strange thing, we could not find the trace of the puncture, it had to be very small. Michelin Protek Max inner tube luckily re-sealed itself). Marathons behave strangely on paving-block surfaces, too. Perhaps the MTB version is better, but no, thanks I hope Smart Sams will satisfy my current needs. And the need is a 75-miler involving light off-road segments.
I hope Smart Sams will satisfy my current needs. And the need is a 75-miler involving light off-road segments.
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@FlatSix911: There's one factor more - availability. We live in hard times. Even if some product is listed (such as Marathon Plus MTB) it is hard to buy it. I looked the tyre up and what is available for 700c wheels is the 2.1" only here, at the moment. I followed your advice to go with the Smart Sam 28 x 1.75" (regular ones) and should get them before weekend. Thanks again for advice!
Same to @TS25 - thank you! Some tyres could be imported from Germany but the waiting times are unacceptable.
Same to @TS25 - thank you! Some tyres could be imported from Germany but the waiting times are unacceptable.
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Good point regarding availability. I think you will be very happy with the Schwalbe Smart Sam tires... let us know when you have time to review!
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Schwalbe Smart Sam 28 x 1.75" on Vado 5: First impressions
What a fun!
(I could have concluded here)
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The tyres thinner than Electrak 2.0 make a funny impression at the first sight, leaving a lot of clearance to the DryTech fender. The ride...
No sound on blacktop. (I was afraid these tyres would be noisy - not at all!) Low rolling resistance. Ride like a dream on gravel. The side tread is so aggressive the small pebbles are taken by the tyre and rattle inside the fender. Bumps? What bumps? One thing is true: the 2" tyres had been performing a lot of vibration-dampening work. Now, my suspension handlebars and Kinekt seat-post work harder (as intended). Yet, everything combined, the Smart Sam on the rigid-fork Vado makes the ride really smooth; especially the rapid vibrations are dampened extremely well.
I rode into the worst segment of a local road (cyclists make a detour through the woods to avoid that segment) -- no issues with riding there! And again: my Vado has no suspension at all (outside the bars and seatpost).
Overall impression: My Vado has become even more sporty and agile with Smart Sams. Greatly recommended! Many thanks to @FlatSix911 and @TS25 for the recommendation!
I'll attempt a forest ride early in the morning.
What a fun!
(I could have concluded here)
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The tyres thinner than Electrak 2.0 make a funny impression at the first sight, leaving a lot of clearance to the DryTech fender. The ride...
No sound on blacktop. (I was afraid these tyres would be noisy - not at all!) Low rolling resistance. Ride like a dream on gravel. The side tread is so aggressive the small pebbles are taken by the tyre and rattle inside the fender. Bumps? What bumps? One thing is true: the 2" tyres had been performing a lot of vibration-dampening work. Now, my suspension handlebars and Kinekt seat-post work harder (as intended). Yet, everything combined, the Smart Sam on the rigid-fork Vado makes the ride really smooth; especially the rapid vibrations are dampened extremely well.
I rode into the worst segment of a local road (cyclists make a detour through the woods to avoid that segment) -- no issues with riding there! And again: my Vado has no suspension at all (outside the bars and seatpost).
Overall impression: My Vado has become even more sporty and agile with Smart Sams. Greatly recommended! Many thanks to @FlatSix911 and @TS25 for the recommendation!
I'll attempt a forest ride early in the morning.
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