I agree, if you can afford it, buy a stock bike and do a conversion. I like riding the Carbon, it's a very attractive seamless design, but when it comes to performance and $'s I think most people can get the bike they want with better performance. I'm at the point in my MAC 500W 8T conversion where I'm doing motor tests and I already know "hands down" that this is going to be a more powerful bike then the Carbon, and faster then the BB02 (and maybe better torque). In the case of the MT1000 tandem, there weren't any options except conversion, and the end result is fantastic....so yes indeed both.
Court J.
Conversion bikes have a huge advantage in that they are much easier to customize and upgrade.. The downside is appearance.. Stock eBikes are beautifully integrated