Creo 2 nails frame geo and tire clearance!

hankj

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Bravo Specialized!

Creo 2 relaxed, long and relatively upright. Takes 50mm rubber no problem.

I've been waiting to see this exact all-road ebike. It's forgoes a little bit of road racing geometry's aero and snappiness, but because it has a motor will still positively haul a@@. And in return for it being very slightly less slippery and quick, you get back all day comfort and greater safety.

Fat tires are fast tires. I regularly PR my old Strava road segments on 50mm G-One Speeds (38psi) and 35mm Conti 5000's (50 psi). On less than perfect roads with some texture to them, fatter softer tires are unquestionably faster rolling than skinnier and harder. Not to mention far more comfortable.

And maybe even more importantly, fatter tires that don't need to be pumped up really hard to keep from pinching brake SO much better. Like in a totally different category, particularly if it's wet, or if you're not on a perfect road surface. This is a HUGE advantage, particularly for an e-bike where so many people are traveling at speeds above their actual cycling comfort/competence level.

Sitting a little more upright is not that bad for aerodynamics. Bend your elbows and hunch the shoulders properly and you slide through the air fine. And higher stack, slower steering bikes like Creo 2 are much better for aerobars anyway. Clip on a pair and lie forward, super aero and very comfortable with a high stack. Stable on a slacker HTA with the front wheel farther out front.

Plus Creo 2 isn't bolt upright, just reasonably so. It is just upright enough to put you into the comfortable 8 hour day position. It's the right height stack for non-competitive riders to use the drops sometimes. Remember those? The lower level of the handle bar you never ever touch on a slammed road bike? Creo 2 stack will let you comfortably use your road bar's drops, not just the tops and hoods.

So again, BRAVO Specialized! You designed an optimal ALL roads e-bike for real riders that takes into account the comfort and safety a motor can confer without effectively sacrificing speed. I sincerely hope that your consumers realize that this is the ebike that they actually need and will get the most out of, not something that looks like a TdF team Colnago with a motor. Thanks!
 
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Oh and THANK YOU for the normal axle specs. So nice to be able to shop for a wide range of wheelsets, not buy front and rear separately, not retrofit wonky axle adapters on the front. Thanks.

I swear I'm so hyped on the new frame geo and tire clearance. I might Jones bar a Creo 2 and turn it into the Ferrari of Dutch bikes 😝
 
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And last little bit of my fanboy love letter: Great job keeping the 320w battery. Literally your 320w bikes are the only quality ebikes I can think of that you can travel with by commercial airline. 320w battery out, carry on two 160w extenders (biggest possible allowed on a plane), fly anywhere in the world you want to ride. Fantastic. So well thought through on your part 👍
 
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My Creo 1 has flat bars and 42 tyres ( possibly take 45s) with a 38t chainring and while I would like the Creo 2 motor for the extra climbing power I can't really justify It. ( I look on with envy).
 
My Creo 1 has flat bars and 42 tyres ( possibly take 45s) with a 38t chainring and while I would like the Creo 2 motor for the extra climbing power I can't really justify It. ( I look on with envy).
Sounds pretty awesome!
 
And last little bit of my fanboy love letter: Great job keeping the 320w battery. Literally your 320w bikes are the only quality ebikes I can think of that you can travel with by commercial airline. 320w battery out, carry on two 160w extenders (biggest possible allowed on a plane), fly anywhere in the world you want to ride. Fantastic. So well thought through on your part 👍
Definitely a strength of the Turbo Creo line. The TQ bikes have adopted the same strategy and Fazua has said they are releasing a bottle extender in 2024 for the Ride 60 bikes.

Bosch talks up the energy density of their 250wh extender, but I wouldnt be surprised to see them bring out a smaller extender next year. I think their SX motor sounds great but will be a hard sell against lighter more versatile SL ebikes like the Creo and heavier more powerful full power ebikes.
 
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