Cadence, torque and power, oh my!

You want slow hard cadence, turn the PAS off,I can guarantee it will be plenty slow and hard.( I love the PAS on my bikes helps me with the hills thats what it is for)
Not having ridden either bike you are referencing, I can only say this: on my bike (Tongsheng mid motor with both cadence and torque sensing) the motor responds best with a fast cadence. That is the most efficient way to pedal anyhow, electric or not. I get the most robust response when I pedal fast and hard. I find desultory (def: "half-assed") pedaling the least satisfying of all. The motor seems to say, "This guy aint trying very hard, why should I?"

I like a 70 rpm cadence, which I have internalized quite well--not very fast, I admit, but I am 85 yo. I try to select an assist level (most 1, but sometimes higher, if the hill calls for it) and gear to let me maintain that 70 rpm cadence no matter what.
 
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I am very curious about these bikes, just wondering why Court never does a review on them? I would love to hear his opinion.
 
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