Beverages

MY EYES! I CANNOT UN-SEE THAT ALMOND MILK NOW! I truly feel for ya foofer. My wife found out she's gluten intolerant. I try to support her by eating the same things she does now. The weird part is if I sneak out at work and get something with bread in it I get sick now! Life can be cruel sometimes.
 
Plain allmond milk is pretty dull. The sweet stuff is like drinking your milk after you had cereal horrible. The almond milk is very neutral and it soothes my esophagus really well. Better than the antacid does. So So I use it to mix with my fiber and protein powder.
Now get this. ok grains and complex carbs like beans have bothered me the most especially beans. I have not eaten them in 30 years. even fermented bean paste in better Chinese restaurants will bother me. ok after 15 or os years or maybe more my wife became sensitive to grains and beans. now she cant them at all. sometimes oatmeal or such but wheat and rise are big problems. ll out dogs became cleric to grains and now we don't even bother we go straight to grain free food. families share gut bacteria and its a real issue here.
 
foofer............well, just what can you eat? You mentioned meat. So what could be a nice tasty satisfying dinner for you. It can't be just almond milk all day everyday. Just what food stuffs have you got to play with?
 
duggie said:
foofer............well, just what can you eat? You mentioned meat. So what could be a nice tasty satisfying dinner for you. It can't be just almond milk all day everyday. Just what food stuffs have you got to play with?
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everyday I can eat meat eggs hard cheese the onsweetned almond milk and normal supplements. thats what I can eat that never bothers me. I eat veggies three times a week. everything els I have to be careful or not at all. no real splurges anymore. carbs will make me loopy if I eat much it caused me to crash our tandem and almost lose my finger in a woodworking accident. so I have to be extreme careful eating them.
 
So no carbs pretty much at all. Difficult. Vegetables three times a week. Meat, eggs, hard cheese. Top chefs wouls struggle with only those ingredients. But it is something to play with. You could have cheese and ham omelette. Fried beef, stewed beef. It sounds bearable, just, like being on a constant no carbs diet. You'll have to be inventive with things like meat loaf, meat balls, liver, gravy soups. Then there is chicken. You didn't mention fish, which would be a great help. And then you have delicacies you could have, snail, jellied eels, mucus membrane soup, etc.

I know it must seem very boring to be so restricted, but frankly i think most people are bored with food even when they can eat anything. I was in a farmer's market today and there was wonderful foods all around, but I looked at each individually and none of them appetized me. So for my tea (5pm meal) I just had ham and cheese on toast, and even that I didn't finish. So remember you are not missing out very much if at all, effectively. Not as much as you might think.
 
duggie said:
I know it's to wheel out that hairy old chestnut again (incidentally, check your chestnuts this festive season before you give them a good roasting by the fire, mine were all full of mould!), but back to this hairy chestnut. Yes, I'm on about, well, let's be blunt...what's your favourite beverage. But it is such an important question. I'll come right out now and say mine is tea, and by a long chalk. BUT it has to made right, For me this is boiling water on the tea bag and then left for at least a minute, preferably two, then a dash of milk, and no sugar. However, the crucial thing about it all, and this is never mentioned, is the drinking temperature. I like it cool enough to get down in one, though I take my time.

I've tried coffees of all types, and sometimes they hit the mark. I've done cocoa, drinking chocolate, ovaltine, horlicks, and sometime for a change they are ok, but tea is just so tasty and refreshing.

The only booze beverage I can stand, after years of 'testing', is shandy (beer and lemonade).

In terms of soft drink beverage I think orange juice with water is always best.

So, for me it is tea, shandy, and orange.

As to plain water, I just can't seem to make my mind up about it.

What do other folks think regarding beverages? And if anyone has a good suggestion I will try it and say what I think, plain and straight, right down the line my honest, not pulling any punches, cast iron guarantee of honest truth, 100% prime beef.
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My chestnuts are always full of worms, I love plain water, and Dr.Pepper as well as good coffee, plus orange juice the problem with OJ is it gives me bad reflux if I drink too much.
 
duggie said:
So no carbs pretty much at all. Difficult. Vegetables three times a week. Meat, eggs, hard cheese. Top chefs wouls struggle with only those ingredients. But it is something to play with. You could have cheese and ham omelette. Fried beef, stewed beef. It sounds bearable, just, like being on a constant no carbs diet. You'll have to be inventive with things like meat loaf, meat balls, liver, gravy soups. Then there is chicken. You didn't mention fish, which would be a great help. And then you have delicacies you could have, snail, jellied eels, mucus membrane soup, etc.

I know it must seem very boring to be so restricted, but frankly i think most people are bored with food even when they can eat anything. I was in a farmer's market today and there was wonderful foods all around, but I looked at each individually and none of them appetized me. So for my tea (5pm meal) I just had ham and cheese on toast, and even that I didn't finish. So remember you are not missing out very much if at all, effectively. Not as much as you might think.
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the thing is pretty much the only seasonings I can handle on a day to day basis is salt and pepper. when I ride and burn 1000 or more calories is a bear to replace it. I can eat nuts somewhat but got to watch the carbs and the fat in them. I can handle fish but plain it's like nah. don't like cooking it ether. going out is almost impossible. simple Chinese food is the usual like meat and veggie dishes with simple sauces. no rice of course. or unless burgers. the weird thing is before I was really reagin to food I found carbs dud not give me any extra energy.I was riding a bike and would eat a bunch of fruit before and no extra energy. since then I have tested this over and over. Now with a watts meter I can see that carbs don't fuel me at all only extra protein does. I will loose energy with carbs. if I ate them on a regular basis I will lose muscle and get weak then it takes months to recover it. I can eat a few carbs but it's pretty minted about 15 grams a day or so. but thats over the day not all at once.
 
What the heck do I know? Nothing really. My understanding is that the body has to process protein to get energy from it, has to convert it to a sugar energy. The body has to convert carbs to a sugar energy, too, but it is already a step nearer than protein. So, perhaps you can help the body by doing as much protein processing before you eat it to make it straight ready for the sugar conversion part. So liquidize it and get it to the right consistency all so that it is ready to go. Then info needs to be found out about how to help the body's conversion to sugar, the science of it.
 
Beverages. Last evening I juiced fruit and then diluted it with both cold and hot water for cold and hot drinks. These were very good indeed, but not really practical because if the pulp and mess and sink blocking and mess, etc. Something easier needs to be found. The normal cordials I find a bit too not have the quality I require. So I think I am going to start having a look for ready made cordials, juices and stuff and have a try with them.

I got some licorice today. It was a little stick of hard brittle stuff and put some hot water on it and left it and it is delicious. Sort of like sarsaparilla. So things are happening. Unfortunately I've caught a cold, but i'll gather the cordials and stuff ready for a tasting session......'I'm getting Levi jeans, museum staircase, Dunlop tyre, with an open window', haha
 
duggie said:
What the heck do I know? Nothing really. My understanding is that the body has to process protein to get energy from it, has to convert it to a sugar energy. The body has to convert carbs to a sugar energy, too, but it is already a step nearer than protein. So, perhaps you can help the body by doing as much protein processing before you eat it to make it straight ready for the sugar conversion part. So liquidize it and get it to the right consistency all so that it is ready to go. Then info needs to be found out about how to help the body's conversion to sugar, the science of it.
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I use protein powder when I need it fas. it does not fill me up though so it's best with some regular food. e gif protein is the best as it does not have any carbs but its hard to get anymore without all the fake sweetness.ya you lose about 1/4 the calories just digesting protein. I bet thats why my calorie intake is higher than usual.
 
Left Hand Milk Stout Nitro

Kombucha

Black French press coffee

And of course good ol high quality H20
 
Fooferdoggie.........it's very sad to hear hear about your diet problems. It sounds horrific, and i worry about it getting you down. But, maybe it is the optimist in me, but I feel in my gut that there is something out there for you which could help a great deal. I was reading about Scott and the Antarctic, and they needed a lot of calories, and what they did was to stack the sleds with olive oil which they could heat on a primus. It was olive oil specially chosen because it was the max calories by weight. So maybe there is something like that, a single high calorie substance which you can tolerate by some special reason, and you could work with that. These days, explorers might have foods in pellet form, coated with something. I don't know, but something super high calorie, a sort of sugar so you are ready to go. Keep looking. Keep hope.
 
duggie said:
Fooferdoggie.........it's very sad to hear hear about your diet problems. It sounds horrific, and i worry about it getting you down. But, maybe it is the optimist in me, but I feel in my gut that there is something out there for you which could help a great deal. I was reading about Scott and the Antarctic, and they needed a lot of calories, and what they did was to stack the sleds with olive oil which they could heat on a primus. It was olive oil specially chosen because it was the max calories by weight. So maybe there is something like that, a single high calorie substance which you can tolerate by some special reason, and you could work with that. These days, explorers might have foods in pellet form, coated with something. I don't know, but something super high calorie, a sort of sugar so you are ready to go. Keep looking. Keep hope.
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I will survive I have learned to deal with it. between my guts and my esophagus I doubt ican take anything on a regular basis.
 
duggie said:
Fooferdoggie.........it's very sad to hear hear about your diet problems. It sounds horrific, and i worry about it getting you down. But, maybe it is the optimist in me, but I feel in my gut that there is something out there for you which could help a great deal. I was reading about Scott and the Antarctic, and they needed a lot of calories, and what they did was to stack the sleds with olive oil which they could heat on a primus. It was olive oil specially chosen because it was the max calories by weight. So maybe there is something like that, a single high calorie substance which you can tolerate by some special reason, and you could work with that. These days, explorers might have foods in pellet form, coated with something. I don't know, but something super high calorie, a sort of sugar so you are ready to go. Keep looking. Keep hope.
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I was stumbling around on the job one day, fatigued, hot and sick one of the clients brought Me out a small glass of blended fruit and I do not know what else, what happened was this-Instant recovery I was new the rest of the workday.I wish I would have paid attention to His"Blend" He confided He used this blend or one like it when He wished to lose weight. We are what we eat. I have an idea a little experimentation with blended "true food' cocktails would have many benefits.
 
Roamers said:
I can miss a day with no consequence. Was going to switch to every other day, but gastroenterologist suggested not to.
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I can somewhat too but I pay a energy price. like if I want bunless burgers I eat them at the end of the ride that mayo will slow me down for several hours.
 
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