No. But for no good reason. Perfect 2WD motors. They tolerate over voting and are very reliable. Tons of threads on endless_sphere going back a dozen years regarding their reliability and performance.
I am ready to place my order, however, the only thing holding me back is the 20 kmh speed limit... only 12.5 mph!
Does anyone make a speed limit hack for the Bafang mid-drive? I have the BadAssBox on all of my other rides.
Enki Cycles Miller
SPECIFICATIONS
FRAME MATERIAL: Aluminium 6061
CHAINSET: Gates Carbon belt drive
DRIVE OPTIONS: Single Speed or Nexus 3 Speed IGH
FRONT BRAKE: Hydraulic disc
REAR BRAKE: Hydraulic disc
RIMS: 700c
MOTOR: Bafang M500 250W torque sensing mid-drive
TORQUE: 95nM
VOLTAGE SYSTEM: 36V
BATTERY: 7Ah Samsung lithium-ion, 18650 cells
ASSIST: 5 power levels. PAS only.USB PORT: 5V
TIRES: WTB 37C Riddler
SADDLE: Selle Royal
PEDAL: Wellgo
DISPLAY: Bafang
RANGE/SPEED: 44 mile (70km) range* / 20kmh
WEIGHT: 15.5kg / 34.2lbs (M/SS)
*Range tests performed on various urban street circuits ranging from 5km to 32km,
PAS 3, 68kg / 150lbs rider weight, various weather conditions - to simulate real-world scenarios.
It's interesting that the Enky has torque and cadence sensing and the Desiknio has cadence but no torque sensing. Does anyone know which is better on bikes like this?Just found the EBR summary of the Desiknio... 20 mph limit/Single Speed.
Desiknio Single Speed Urban Review | ElectricBikeReview.com
Price: $4415.00 | Model Year: 2018 | A sleek, quiet, incredibly lightweight, single speed electric bike, made in three frame sizes and four colors with hydraulic disc brakes, very limited quantityelectricbikereview.com
Summary
- A sleek, quiet, incredibly lightweight, single speed electric bike, made in three frame sizes and four colors with hydraulic disc brakes, very limited quantity
- Smooth welds, internally routed cabling, completely hidden battery pack, and compact hub motor make this e-bike super stealthy, it blends in
- High attention to detail, the motor cable is tucked in and well protected, all of the components match in black, the rims and tires are upgraded
- Super responsive 20 magnet cadence sensor, reliable belt drive, minimalist control interface but there's a smartphone app, smaller battery and motor, battery is not removable for separate charging
The 20mph sounds amzing! But with a Single Speed with that gearing, won't you spin out before it reaches that top speed? Or at the very least, you would be pedelling at 90-100 rpm - which isn't so relaxing!Just found the EBR summary of the Desiknio... 20 mph limit/Single Speed.
Desiknio Single Speed Urban Review | ElectricBikeReview.com
Price: $4415.00 | Model Year: 2018 | A sleek, quiet, incredibly lightweight, single speed electric bike, made in three frame sizes and four colors with hydraulic disc brakes, very limited quantity
Summary
- A sleek, quiet, incredibly lightweight, single speed electric bike, made in three frame sizes and four colors with hydraulic disc brakes, very limited quantity
- Smooth welds, internally routed cabling, completely hidden battery pack, and compact hub motor make this e-bike super stealthy, it blends in
- High attention to detail, the motor cable is tucked in and well protected, all of the components match in black, the rims and tires are upgraded
- Super responsive 20 magnet cadence sensor, reliable belt drive, minimalist control interface but there's a smartphone app, smaller battery and motor, battery is not removable for separate charging
www.ebiketuning.com
that's nuts! and cheap! seriously, I'm giddy with excitement! Lucky I'm getting the 3 speedThanks for the corrected 25km/h specs. I also found a speed box for Bafang mid drives... 50km/h maximum
Speedbox for Bafang
First Electric Bicycle Tuning for Bafang MaxDrive engines. Shift the speed limit up to 50 Km/h.
Teebund my bad. FlatSix911 has just stated that the equipped Bafang motor only has a limit of 12.5mph!?! That seems like you are not getting the full potential of the motor at that speed. I would feel like I was at crawling speed at that. If that is the case, I regretfully would have to abstain my vote for this bike. It really surprises me that Bafang would make a motor that is geared/setup to be so slow IMO. I just don't get it (if in fact these specs are accurate). Sorry dude!
On their kickstarter page they have just released another version with the higher spec M600 and have removed the speed restriction! Apparently that beast has 120Nm of torque and with the 3sp IGH you should be able to achieve insane speeds!!Teebund my bad. FlatSix911 has just stated that the equipped Bafang motor only has a limit of 12.5mph!?! That seems like you are not getting the full potential of the motor at that speed. I would feel like I was at crawling speed at that. If that is the case, I regretfully would have to abstain my vote for this bike. It really surprises me that Bafang would make a motor that is geared/setup to be so slow IMO. I just don't get it (if in fact these specs are accurate). Sorry dude!
Are you considering a speed dongle for this bike after testing, reviewing, etc?that's nuts! and cheap! seriously, I'm giddy with excitement! Lucky I'm getting the 3 speed
Thanks for the update! That is crazy, but that is exactly what I would be looking for if this is an option. Now this is looking warm and fuzzy to me again!
Thanks for the corrected 25km/h specs. I also found a speed box for Bafang mid drives... 50km/h maximum
Speedbox for Bafang
First Electric Bicycle Tuning for Bafang MaxDrive engines. Shift the speed limit up to 50 Km/h.
Probably won't need the speedbox for it now - but I will definitely review it once i get it
Great, I am almost as excited as you are. This will be quite interesting!Probably won't need the speedbox for it now - but I will definitely review it once i get it
Oh yeah, that is a no brainer for only $150US for all that extra power. My understanding is the Bafang can really put out speed and Nm of torque! I think the M600 is @ 120Nm of torque. I have a Yamaha at 80Nm and it is crazy fast off the line. Hello FUN!
I just changed my pledge to the M600 version. BOOM!!!
The M600 looks great...
