10 vs 11 speed on Medeo T10+.

[Jens5]

Very surprised that Gazelle used 2015 gear tech on a 2020 bike. 10 speed is now old school and increasingly difficult to source parts. I can upgrade the entire drive-train, minus chain ring to 11 speed Shimano XT for under $300.

 

[rich c]

Both my Haibikes use 10 speeds and I have no complaints. $300 for one more gear? I don't understand the need.

 

[Jens5]

Both my Haibikes use 10 speeds and I have no complaints. $300 for one more gear? I don't understand the need.

Replacing for parts availability as 10 speed stuff is getting increasingly hard to find, plus it will be all XT. 11 speed XT,Same as I have on my other Haibike and it shifts noticeably better than the outdated 10 speed on my Gazelle. Maybe that will help you understand.

 

[rich c]

Still doesn’t make sense to me on a new bike. I have over 4,800 miles on a 10 speed cassette. Changing out a 2020 gear set because parts are hard to get and it's old school still makes no sense.

 

[Jens5]

I like to do these things whether it makes sense to you or someone else is irrelevant. I think you want to argue for the sake of argument. Got something positive to contribute? Go for it. Otherwise, this conversation is over.

 

[rich c]

How much more positive than saying a 10 speed cassette will last 5,000 miles if you take care of it do you want? Parts availability doesn’t make much difference today if the 10 speed cassette lasts 3-4 years. Adding 1 gear does not make a cassette high tech and modern. Better? But if you really want the 11 speed and it would make you happier, why ask? It’s not like it’s a huge investment. I’d suspect the 11 speed isn’t readily available right now either. Parts are in short supply everywhere.

 

[Jens5]

How much more positive than saying a 10 speed cassette will last 5,000 miles if you take care of it do you want? Parts availability doesn’t make much difference today if the 10 speed cassette lasts 3-4 years. Adding 1 gear does not make a cassette high tech and modern. Better? But if you really want the 11 speed and it would make you happier, why ask? It’s not like it’s a huge investment. I’d suspect the 11 speed isn’t readily available right now either. Parts are in short supply everywhere.

All 11 speed drive parts arrived within 2 day shipping. Not hard to get at all. Available anywhere. The 10 speed stuff is whats hard to get. Believe me. I tried.
As I originally wanted an "Ultimate T10+. None were available from my dealer, so I decided to see what I could do to make to make my Medeo T10+ a, Medeo T10+Ultimate. My Medeo, $3499 The Ultimate= $3999. What to do with the extra $500 I had already set aside for the Ultimate? Make my own. In my opinion it's what Gazelle should have included with the Ultimate.
1. More modern and robust drive-train.
2. Intuvia display instead of the Purian.
Upgrading the drive to 11 speed, all Shimano XT. (Cassette, Derailleur, shifters, cable & cable, including labor $307.75
Display: Intuvia retrofit kit= $134.95,(ships free)
Mount for Intuvia Display= $45
Sub=$487.50
$100 credit for original parts
So, For $387.50 I've turned my Medeo T10+ into a, Medeo T10+ Ultimate.
Only thing I'm missing is Red paint and a better light. Oh wait, I've still got $112.50 for a light upgrade! I'll live with the "petrol" paint I've got I'm retired, have the money and time and I love doing this kind of thing. Will post pics soon.

 

[Ravi Kempaiah]

The 10 speed stuff is whats hard to get. Believe me. I tried.

10 speed Shimano Deore cassettes are available on Amazon with 2-day prime shipping for $50. I used the exact same model on one of my bikes and it lasted 3300 miles.
Here is the link:

Amazon.com

Here is a link to the XT cassette :

Amazon.com : SHIMANO XT CS-M771 Bicycle Cassette (10-Speed) : Bike Cassettes And Freewheels : Sports & Outdoors

Amazon.com : SHIMANO XT CS-M771 Bicycle Cassette (10-Speed) : Bike Cassettes And Freewheels : Sports & Outdoors

www.amazon.com

 

[rich c]

Jenson has Shimano 11-36 ten speed for $60.99 in stock. Free shipping on orders over $60

Shimano XT CS-M7710 Speed Cassette | Jenson USA

www.jensonusa.com

 

[Jens5]

The 10 speed XT shifter, almost impossible to find. 10 speed cassettes, no problem.