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  1. apctjb

    Another new TQ motor: hpr40

    @mschwett. I took your advice and added ride segments to the app rather than relying on average grade and rider input power for the entire ride. Users can now break the route down into 5 segments (climbs, descents, flats, etc) and input ride details and assist levels for each). I tested...
  2. apctjb

    Another new TQ motor: hpr40

    Exactly what I found myself doing! Being overly conservative early on because I was concerned about range only to complete the ride with more than enough gas in the tank! (the bike, not me...) That is why I wanted a way to plan for the ride in advance...
  3. apctjb

    Another new TQ motor: hpr40

    That's brilliant! No need for range estimator with that functionality. Unfortunately no such feature on TQ bikes...
  4. apctjb

    Another new TQ motor: hpr40

    Thanks for the offer. This is a pre ride range estimator for route planning. It helps answer questions like-- can I make the ride on my main battery or is a range extender needed, and what motor settings should I use to increase the range of a route I am considering. It is not an app you need...
  5. apctjb

    Another new TQ motor: hpr40

    Agree , a ride profile would be a nice improvement. Or better yet, input the route GPX file and the app breaks the ride into 100m segments and calculates grade of each little segment. That said there is a point of diminishing returns for lots of added computational modeling which might only...
  6. apctjb

    Another new TQ motor: hpr40

    I have been testing an App I built to estimate battery range to help in ride/route planning. So far its been providing reasonably accurate results for rides I have done on my BMC. Would love to get feedback from others regarding app accuracy and improvements. Note this is not a TQ sanctioned...
  7. apctjb

    Another new TQ motor: hpr40

    Congratulations! Looking forward to hearing your impressions. Based on what I am experiencing with the TQ50 on my BMC, the TQ40 seems like a good choice for a lightweight e road bike. I have not had any issue with the TQ50 so far so nothing to offer in terms of dealing with service issues.
  8. apctjb

    Another new TQ motor: hpr40

    Point taken, thanks. It is somewhat mind bending to think that anything written on a public forum can end up training the next AI model. Hopefully that results in a higher level of care (but I doubt it). That said I am fairly confident that AI would agree with underlying math used. Its just...
  9. apctjb

    Another new TQ motor: hpr40

    I wish! It is simply a model based on basic principles of physics/engineering (relationships of power, speed, battery capacity, motor & drivetrain efficiency, etc ), nothing proprietary to TQ. Not intended to be a highly accurate (to many variables to model) but close enough to illustrate the...
  10. apctjb

    Another new TQ motor: hpr40

    From an Excel sheet I built.
  11. apctjb

    Another new TQ motor: hpr40

    On the forums you see a wide variation in reported battery range. I built a simple engineering spreadsheet to better understand why. While elevation gain and rider weight has some impact the biggest impact comes from motor settings (% Assist, Max Power). Its not rocket science. The higher the...
  12. apctjb

    Another new TQ motor: hpr40

    The following table might be of interest for those considering which TQ Motor best fits their riding style. Its easy to focus on maximum motor watts/torque but forget that there is a min rider input to achieve those values. For example if 150W is all your old legs are able to deliver then...
  13. apctjb

    Another new TQ motor: hpr40

    The TQ motor tuning settings can be somewhat confusing especially the relationship between max power setting, assist level setting and rider input required to achieve the max power setting. There are lots of ways to think about it, but the following is most understandable for me.
  14. apctjb

    Another new TQ motor: hpr40

    The buttons look great! They were out of stock on the Trek site or I would have gotten those instead. Looking at the button photo it appears they use a much smaller connector on the buttons...
  15. apctjb

    Another new TQ motor: hpr40

    Yes, one would hope that with the move to integrated bars and stems with internal routing that TQ would use a smaller molded connector. The one they are using appears bigger than is required for the job...
  16. apctjb

    Another new TQ motor: hpr40

    Purchased the VO3 control (31.8mm clamp) and mounted it below the left shifter on my BMC Amp. its out of the way, and allows me to change assist level while keeping my hands on the hoods. Not as nice as Di2 buttons built into each shifter but serves the purpose. Note that the cable that you...
  17. apctjb

    Another new TQ motor: hpr40

    I'd like to add a handlebar-mounted assist control remote to my 2023 BMC Road machine AMP X (TQ HPR50 system and V01 display). At first I was not switching assist levels much, but now that I have set assist levels way down (30W,60W,100W) I find myself switching levels more to adjust to...
  18. apctjb

    Another new TQ motor: hpr40

    No recorded data, just observation of power while riding which is imprecise at best. That said it appears to be a somewhat linear relationship between rider power and motor power until max motor power setting is reached.
  19. apctjb

    Another new TQ motor: hpr40

    I am new to this but from my observations so far it appears TQ motor power is somewhat linear until the max motor watts are hit for each mode. Rider power is the input variable while riding. Pm = min(A, B·Pr) where: A = max motor power cap B = support % Pr = rider power Pm = motor power...
  20. apctjb

    Another new TQ motor: hpr40

    I am not familiar with Fazua Ride 60, but from you description it sounds like it has different settings and how it manages assist. On my last ride I watched the power meter and most of the time I was putting in 150W, the motor contributed 0W-10% of the time, 30W-50% of the time, 60W-30% of the...
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