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Well, earlier you said: Even your narrative is self-contradictory - you first claimed it was an intentional experiment, then, months later, you admitted it was an accident. But, you've got me ignored now, right?

And when I pointed out that I had already done that, twice even, your huffy response was: I can't anticipate all the incorrect things people might do; I'm content to respond when someone recommends something incorrect as being "the holy grail." Yes. The only thing worse than starting a thread...

I was content to let the potty humor of your "supporters" be the end result of this thread, as to anyone who is an adult, seeing them respond to data and facts with self-indulgent giggling over potty and sexual humor shows their true intent. Then someone came back with actual data, so I felt...

The ironic thing is that before use of o-rings (and now x-rings) in motorcycle chains (pre 1970s), owners would use a variant of the immersive wax treatment (eg Duckhams or Linklife) now recommended for bicycle chains. But, those products are no longer made because for the last half century...

How ironic that the person ignoring the science of chain wax adhesion, ignoring the recommendations of the manufacturer of the products, and ignoring the results of the most scientific and independent tests we have available, compares his mixing of two commercial products to real science...

I know it's popular today to not believe the science, but I guess I'm old-fashioned that way. But, your "information" just keeps getting worse and worse. You started out by posting this nonsense in multiple threads, and it's not insulting for me to point out the facts: • First, you reference...

Are you saying you've actually done 3 tests: 1) Maxima Chain Pro by itself 2) Maxima Chain Wax by itself 3) Both together And that you've done each on a separate chain on which you've measured chain wear against mileage? I'm calling BS on that. Again. You're just making comparisons up now. Oh...

Yeah, maybe not completely overnight, but 2-3 hours at least does require some changes to procedure and isn't for everyone.

Sure, if you ride in the clean and dry, then you don't need the sealing properties of wax. Do note, however, that in ZCF's tests, they don't remove the chain and they don't even clean the chain during the 6,000 kms of test riding simulation. They do add more lubrication, but that's on top of...

1) If you really really think you've discovered the "magic" protocol, as you've posted, you should email the ZCF guy (who claims to read emails from readers/viewer), as well as BikeRumor.com, and, ESPECIALLY, email/call Maxima themselves. I'm SURE Maxima would love to be able to recommend that...

LOL, my link includes a link to a downloadable spreadsheet. But, since you're so kind, helpful and not at all insulting, here's a zip file of the latest, just for you: No, the ZCF guy says there's a 10X difference between the best the worst in his 50-something tests.

FWIW, that does well in the ZFC tests. Tops during the clean/dry run, 20th after dusty, then not so great after another clean run, but then shines after the wet exposure.

In the ZFC tests, which being real data isn't something you're probably interested in reading, T-9 came in 33rd at the end of the 1,000 km dry/clean run, 38th after the dry/dusty run, 36th after the 3rd clean run, etc. Pretty middle of the road. There are worse, sure, but there are also better...

The Excel test data file has this note: That said, Squirt does fairly well in the ZFC tests. In the video, BikeRumor gave it a "great value" rating, and the ZFC guy says (about 24 minutes in) that it's a "solid choice," but that it has "initial penetration issues" in that it doesn't readily...

The ZeroFrictionCycling testing guy says otherwise - that the worst brands, even popular ones, only last 1/10 the distance of the best chain lubes. Quote here (timed to start):

Chain lubes are among the contentious discussions in the biking world, and EBR is no exception. Some here may know of the Australian company ZeroFrictionCycling and its extensive testing efforts over the years. Their testing protocol is well-documented, uses a motor-driven actual bicycle...

There is no evidence that this claimed mechanism is true, no chemical/physical theory behind it, and even the company making those particular products does not recommend that procedure.

And now you're editing your posts to remove what you said - even after I quoted and responded with a quote from the company itself. Sad.

LOL, just read the reply from Maxima themselves to the sole comment: Seems like you've switched your insults to be sarcastic now. Go do some research and I'm sure you'll find the answer.

The actually funny part is that Maxima themselves recommends against your procedure. Their wax "needs to be setup on a clean, dry chain" as they state in their videos, not on top of an oily chain.