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This one. https://www.ebikes.ca/shop/electric-bicycle-parts/motors/direct-drive/igh-395.html That's the one that Stromer uses as well. They limit to 45kph using their own controller.

Interesting. How does GMAC compare to TDCM - barring the obvious weight / size issues ? Wondering if GMAC is a smaller version of the TDCM IGH version ?

Hey watts wagon guy, is this real? https://wattwagons.com/products/titan

I just did a search for massive battery packs and weirdly this came up. https://wattwagons.com/products/titan Does Watt Wagons sell a big battery too ? I cant seem to be able to navigate to the product from the site - just have a direct link from the search engine. I have a large triangle...

Agreed- i think it is each individual's preference. I definitely prefer smoother welds - as long as they all are passing the safety standards laid out.

I think I saw a video posted on a different thread- I believe theirs are made in Taiwan. Some are beginning to be in Vietnam. Also case in point - Stromer seems to be doing a much better job of welding. They are strong bikes. I dont think theirs breaks - but looks soooo much better than RM.

All frames (during design and certification process) are ASTM tested. Smoothening or not smoothening is not really a factor if the certification criteria is met. The way Koga does it is that they double weld and smooth down the second weld. I just want to highlight that nuance. Koga bikes ride...

Question - may be i am overthinking this - and I am still new here so may be there is a better way to word this. Is the welding job on the R&M bikes really this poor ? I have seen multiple pictures on their website, plus historical stuff.. cant figure out why they cant double weld and sand down...

Nice bike.