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almost completely stopping pedalling and it occasionally misses gears, ie when i start applying force again its super hard to pedal until it finally snaps, with a loud clank, into the gear.

Thanks for the tip, that's what I figured. Just perplexed a bike nav appliance doesn't do this out the box, from what I've read the open maps platform has bike lane data but no route Ive searched for uses them. For my use case I actually lost a feature (working USB charge port) in switching to...

Unfortunately I don't think the Nyon GPS prioritizes routes over bike lanes here in NYC, will likely need to create routes in another app and export, or just use my phone still for navigation. I'd be mad had I paid for the Nyon upgrade.

Thanks, no I fully understand how it works and was just wondering if the default turbo is max assist at all speed milestones or is there further performance headroom. I have the Nyon and was wondering if the custom mode add-on was worth checking out; in my case it is not.

Does anyone know if the default Turbo mode is the highest assist mode? Can a custom mode be configured with Nyon that offers a more aggressive assist than Turbo?

Haha, I very much wanted to keep riding! Glad to report that the motor response and handling of the bike has improved. I think the misshapen chainring has caused my Rohloff to wear in a weird way as it still clanks and misses shifts more than I think it should but overall I am happy with the...

they did, a few things, mainly the chainring sprocket was bent/misshapen and the motor had been water damaged due to faulty seals used in the early batch runs of the new Bosch Gen4s. Its safe to assume all other issues trickled out from these fundamental problems. Will report back in a few hours...

FINALLY! got my bike back yesterday, its been well over a month, going for a ride today and will update the thread hopefully with some good news!

Off the bike, you can use it as a fully functioning GPS unit and battery life is around 2 hours according to Bosch. My question is, does the Nyon's OSM navigation prioritize bike lanes? Seems to just route over regular roads, this is a deal breaker for navigation in any big city!

New Nyon is being installed on my 2020 Superdelite today, R&M has a custom retrofit kit that is available now here in the US

Thanks immensely! What included an entire motor swap is now just waiting on additional parts from R&M; I blame a clunky troubleshooting ethos at my LBS which didn't allow for concurrent troubleshooting of all issues but I think they found the main culprit, misshapen/bent chainring. I was sold...

I haven't had my <1yr old $12k bike for over a month as Bosch/R&M/Gates and my LBS take a stab at resolving its issues, you're "mileage" may vary of course but recognize everyone isn't you!

Kiox, Nyon & Smarthub share the same connections to the controller/motor and Bluetooth stack

The fact that only: Nyon does custom ride modes Kiox & Nyon do Rohloff Smarthub & Nyon do Navigation (Kiox turn screen is a step in the right direction but poorly implemented) Smarthub does music ...is frustrating. Why not allow Kiox to do custom modes, Nyon & Kiosk to see/manage "now playing"...

Thanks for the feedback, sincerely appreciated! IMO, Nyon, as a flagship seems to be "master of none." Kiox w/ smartphone mounted for music & navigation is my current setup, but I wanted a true all in one device with Nyon as I cannot use smartphone hub w/ my Rohloff. As a former software...

Not everyone has the option to switch units, that's what software is for, which is the point of concern here overall, which bosch seems to be ignoring by maintaining distinct software feature sets for seemingly no reason.

Thanks for the reply, why the separate software avenue given the hardware (kiox) can likely support both. Also, do you know of any effort to allow Nyon to control (or even play) music? I ride with music on all the time (with pass-through audio helmet speakers) and given Nyon's niche, to replace...

Does anyone know if the 2021 Nyon supports music controls? Also why doesn't the smartphone hub phone app work with kiox, I'm sure many of us have phone mounts with our Kioxs and it seems like the lack of integration is a purposeful decision by Bosch but physically possible.

Hopeful you're right!! Motor swap took about a week to diagnose with Bosch, then a week to ship and install at the shop. I'm guessing Bosch and R&M do not perform live remote sessions with shop technicians (think zoom) and troubleshooting more closely resembles a game of email tag. Bosch, having...

I take full responsibility for believing what has been an Effective marketing strategy! Every bike shop and their YouTube presence touts R&M as: the best, rock solid, SUV, tank, LandRover, etc...these likely came from R&M. Also, no apology necessary if you were merely and accurately sharing your...