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You seem to buy a lot and heavy stuff... ;-) For a hill of 10% gradient you need about 50-60kg extra weight ot nullify the 240W of the SL motor. On a 5% gradient about twice that weight. Of course you need a better carrier rack (not only with 50-60kg more..) if you ride frequently with a lot of...

Stefan encountered the SL feeling! ;-) When a did my first SL ride 13 months ago, I was at the LBS nearby for - I don't know what, nothing important. I already had three great and expensive bikes in the garage. A good gravel bike only two years old and two good speed ebikes. I used all of them...

Doesn't this look like a threaded hole through the whole fork for fenders and also front light? How is your fender mounted? Or do the non-EQ Vado SLs have forks without whole? No, if I look now at Stefans photo doing some workout by lifting a 4.0 non-EQ I can see the hole in the fork as well.

I understood that Mike wants to put the front light at the fork where it's also often on bicycles. We would prefer it there as well, as some cables are in way now and we want to use a Ortlieb bag at the handle bar. But to mount it at the fork you need to flip the Hecto light 180 degrees and it...

The handling will be always different, but comparing average speed on a tour I tried some online calculators for bicycle how many watts you need for what speed/weight/gradient. I would say as a rule of thumb about 5% (10-12watts) should usually equal the Creos weight or higher wind resistance at...

I put to (cheap) carbon cages in September, one lasted three weeks, the other one surely will also not reach one year of life time. Then I'll be back to simple heavy but reliable plastic cages.

We have a BMW i3 as our only car. With 4m even for germany a small car, for the US a dwarf I guess. With two people in the front the Creo fits in perfectly without dismounting anything. I admit, no space left in four directions then... That's of course a point to buy a Creo instead of a beach...

One last remark to carbon: My positive "CF view" is on frames from experienced/well-known bicycles brands and "normal bikes" for everyone/even heavier riders. At bicycle parts in carbon like stems, handle bars, saddle posts, hubs and especially rims there are much more brands and qualities...

And did it break? ;-)

Ask me again in several years... ;-) I guess too much sun/UV rays is bad for CF and the glue, I wouldn't take CF for an bike that is stored outside but I guess no one does also due to theft. And the same was told 20 years ago about alloy frames, that they don't last very long. I used one (ok...

I would also slightly disagree here... ;-) Your final summary is fine, I CF is not really necessary for all day use and even less with an ebike. But I have to disagree to ALL your downsides. - Very Expensive - It depends, I would call it "expensive". If you buy a Expert or S-Works Creo for...

I mostly ride in the small mountains around home (not the Alps, between 400 and 2900 feet), maybe inside a 60 mile radius. Also due to Corona, maybe soon also a little bit further away. Try to do a longer ride with someone definitely much fitter and lighter on an acoustic bike. You will be...

Creo SL Expert or Comp Carbon is more a question of you likings and your wallet. They both ride great. All Creo have race handle bars. The Vado SL is the cheaper alloy brother of the Creo with straight handle bars. Most people and less experienced riders prefer straight handle bars. Normally one...

Did your tour companions use ebikes as well? My "system weight"on usual rides is similar. My only longer ride with others during the last 10 months was in September. We I did about 70 miles with 6400 feet and I used 89% (so 11% rest) of the main battery (no range extender). With range extender...

It's difficult to compare ranges of totally different bikes and drives like Como, Vado and Creo/SL drives. Or did you mean a Como SL 4.0 RGVCycling?

Even if kattanm surely is a fit rider, we often overestimate the needed motor support. My personal "guess" is, that you need at least 5% SL support, that you can measure a difference (faster rides or lap times). The feeling would be quite dissapointing with only 5" support, I think it needs at...

The controllers inside hub motors were a big problem in early hub motors and died quiet often. But I've never heard of burned controllers at middle motors. But on the other hand quite often mechanical problems in the mostly geared middle motors, while hub motors usually are mechanically a no...

Both shops aren't perfect. I bought my own Creo last summer at shop A with at least a small discount while shop B reacted very arrogant when I asked for a discount. This time we are waiting now 7 weeks for shop A to order a different handle bar and change it (what should last a few days they...

Hub motors have their optimum RPM range. Depending on the type of ebike/motor speed limit somewhere between maybe 20 and 35 km/h. Uphill at very low speed/RPMs (let's say at 10-15km) they work unefficient and slowly overheat and the cooling wind is missing, so they overheat even more until...