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I have a Creo as well and #1 is a huge frustration for me. The other factors aren't as big, but one thing you didn't list that's big with me is the spacing on the wheels. I plan to buy a nice set of carbon wheels and I want to be able to use the wheels with both my Aethos and possibly a Domane+...

I'm really interested in what the response from Trek is. If you have any updates in the future, please provide them.

Wow, that is a good price. But I don't think you'd be able to resell them at $5k. I doubt this is available to me in Canada.

I've owned both hub and mid-drive. One of the hub drives I've owned was a Juiced CCS. I didn't notice that one type of motor was zippier than the other. I think a lot of factors can affect this perception. I ride more miles on non-motorized bikes than on motorized, so when I do ride with...

Deacon, we can only hope. Then we'll get our Domane+ and I'll jump on the ferry over to Vancouver Island and we'll go for that ride we've been talking about. Oh, and I think you mean the SLR6 Gen 4 is $9,700 as I think the SL6 Gen 4 is $6,600. If Trek made a Domane+ SL6 for say $8k Canadian I...

Actually I went back and looked at the prices on the US website and I think the reason the Domane+ is so expensive is the frame material. If you look at the regular Domane SLR 6 with 105 Di2 and it's $8k US, the Domane+ SLR6 with 105 Di2 is $9k, so the motorized version is only $1k more. That's...

Deacon, thanks for the Gran Fondo link.

Agree with the comments that the bike is quite expensive. I know it doesn't make financial sense and because of that I might just buy a regular Domane. But, as I approach retirement I think I might get a Domane+ as my retirement gift to myself. But we'll see. That's still a few years away and I...

Canazuela? Never heard of it referred to as that before.

I remember reading about the original TQ motor which was a lot more powerful, I think it was 120 nm of torque. I recall the design sounded really nice, but it was hard to find bikes with that motor and quite frankly it was way more power than I want on an ebike. I’m glad Trek partnered with...

That's a lot of riding!

Cool, we can start a Creo/Aethos club :)

There are some big rides in here and I’m thinking a 118 mile ride and only using 100 wh of battery? Geez, my first thought was if you rode a regular road bike you’d probably do the ride just fine. I mean with so little battery usage is the motor helping much more than just offsetting its’ weight...

That’s useful information. If you don’t mind sharing, you say a rider of your size. I’m wondering how much you weigh so I can compare to what I would need. If it helps I’m about 155 lbs these days.

Emily I'm curious, what is the particular brand and model of bike you're interested in. Aren't there bikes from competitors that are quite similar? I understand wanting a particular brand and model, but given supply chain shortages during covid you often have to take what you can get. As an...

I like the new Fazua 60 motor and the recently released TQ HPR50. If I purchase another ebike in the future, it will be something smaller and less powerful like these motors. A sub 2 kg motor and around a 400 wh battery is about the sweet spot for me. So I'm going to follow this thread as I'm...

Yeah, I have to agree on wanting to see this system in something other than a full suspension bike. I'd like to see this system in a sort of endurance road bike geometry but with the tire clearance for gravel, and a 2X drivetrain. That would be a very versatile bike that could handle road...

I got an email from Trek about the new Fuel EXe - I really like this bike. The motor is smaller and lighter and the total system weight is only 3.9 KG, which I think is pretty good. This might be light enough that I might actually consider an electric mountain bike. I’d also love to see this...

I used a bike locker at a Skytrain station near our house for my son. He would ride his bike to the station and then take transit to school. We never had a problem with his bike but when you look at the locker you couldn't tell if a bike was in there or not so perhaps that makes a difference...

That's what my answers reflected.