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    Arghhhhh! My New Bike😡😡

    Disregard - the following is apparently incorrect. I’ve recently read elsewhere that there is a button battery under this hatch. I’d investigate before making it permanently inaccessible.
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    Creo Tire Pump

    Thank you!
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    Creo Tire Pump

    @mmwada any issue with the water bottle being offcentered with this mount? It doesn't stick out too far to interfere with legs, does it? BTW - could someone tell me the circumference of the Creo downtube? I don't yet have my Creo but want to get some paint protection film ordered in an...
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    Specialized Extender Battery on sale

    Works with all SL models. doesn’t work with non-SL models
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    Specialized Turbo Vado SL: An Incredible E-Bike (User Club)

    Looks like there's a new VLCS model coming too... Other than obvious visual difference it's unclear what's improved from the current model?
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    Creo SL vs Vado SL

    Also ask about the tire pressure, it’s not uncommon for tires to be way overinflated resulting in a hard ride. Particularly with the E5 coming with 28mm tires vs the Diverge Sport Carbon’s 42mm tires.
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    Sale on IGH & SL bikes (US)

    FWIW - I chatted with RiderCare a couple days ago asking about how long the sale was scheduled to continue. They replied that it had been scheduled to end on March 20th, but ecommerce team kept it going and hadn't given a date. Today when I was in my Specialized LBS - ordering a Creo - the...
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    Creo SL vs Vado SL

    Published geometry is pretty close - 73.5º seat tube angle and 70mm BB drop on the Vado SL for all sizes, and the Creo SL has 74º to 73º seat tube angle and 80.5mm to 75.5mm BB drop depending on size. So - seat tube angle is nearly the same, and the motor may up to 1cm lower relative to the...
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    Specialized Turbo Vado SL: An Incredible E-Bike (User Club)

    I could be wrong, but it seems to me the FutureShock 1.5 is supposed to have one of the springs in it, choosing which one based on expected riding/conditions? https://support.specialized.com/sirrus/en/components-compatibility/future-shock
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    anyone know actual weight difference between a Creo Carbon Comp and a similar aluminum model?

    It seems to vary somewhat. At least in the US, both Trek and Scott tend to list weights on their websites; Trek cites the weight for a size (often 56), Scott gives an "average" with wording to it varying by size and accessories. Specialized and Giant do not list weights on their website, nor...
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    Turbo Vado SL 4.0 vs 5.0 SL EQ(Possibly pre-owned)

    Yes, though that is an isolated instance - it is something OP should consider. Nevertheless, the OP had the impression of used bike having no warranty, which is incorrect. Better the OP work from a position of knowledge, yes?
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    anyone know actual weight difference between a Creo Carbon Comp and a similar aluminum model?

    I don’t know why Specialized doesn’t publish the weights. As for “secretive”, well I can just say my personal experience is they’ve freely answered me both times I’ve asked for weights of particular models/sizes.
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    Creo SL vs Vado SL

    @JustRiding I’m curious which mid-drive assist-up-to-28mph electric road bikes you're finding which are both lighter and less expensive than the Creo models? (and which broadcast as much data via ANT+ & BLE) The Mahle hub motor assist cuts out at 20 mph, as does the assist on the Fazua 50...
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    anyone know actual weight difference between a Creo Carbon Comp and a similar aluminum model?

    Specialized customer support can be responsive these days. I got the following weights for size medium bikes via chat a couple weeks ago. Turbo Creo SL Comp E5: 31 lbs Turbo Creo SL Comp Carbon: 28.4 lbs Turbo Creo SL Comp Carbon EVO: 29.8 lbs
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    Turbo Vado SL 4.0 vs 5.0 SL EQ(Possibly pre-owned)

    You’d still have warranty coverage on the used 5.0 for two years from original purchase date. Just no lifetime frame warranty. https://www.specialized.com/us/en/warranty
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    Creo SL vs Vado SL

    ah, yes, that explains it then. distance unfortunately adds cost - time/fuel to go get it or cost to get shop to ship to a local store for them to build and deliver. Eats up a lot of the $750 delta to a 2022 comp carbon when there’s couple within a two hour drive. Still sort of leaning...
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    Creo SL vs Vado SL

    Turns out that is the one closest to me too. Rather a bit further from Atlanta though… … and may be the only one east of the Mississippi…
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    Creo SL vs Vado SL

    Which shops, please? Specialized site shows 920 miles away for the nearest medium 2021 Comp Carbon (in Massachusetts). There’s a Large slightly closer in Pennsylvania, only 680 miles away. No Smalls showing as available in store. Yes, there are closer XLs but buying two sizes too big would be...
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    Creo SL vs Vado SL

    @Saratoga Dave indeed, though if one were looking primarily for road riding bike (such as the @Rollegourmet seems to be), the $1500 price delta to the 2022 comp carbon which includes a couple upgrades, benefits of carbon frame, and 8% weight reduction, would be pretty compelling. Even more so...
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    Creo SL vs Vado SL

    While writing the following, RiderCare responded surprisingly promptly clarifying that the carbon models do not in fact have rear rack mounts (I thought they did), and thus my question/premise is moot. All charts are from the cited Support document...
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