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Their new mid-drives are really, really nice. Came close to doing the LX instead. But, I'm an old guy. Don't want to be shifting instead of watching for cliffs and traffic...

Rize looks really nice. Their batteries were a little high for me. I came close to getting one.

This bike is really nice. I'm thinking Sondors is a pretty great guy. Maybe the Elon Musk of two wheels. His new motorcycle is amazing for the price.

Search the forum for battery rebuild. There will be a few choices.

This issue is moot for me. I purchased a Sondors MXS and got it this week (based on the review on this wonderful site). I did look into getting my old bike's batteries rebuilt. Thought it was a little pricey.

I used to ski Boyne all the time. I'm in the desert in Phoenix now. Used to love that snow. But not anymore!

Man, that is good info. You are definitely a Michigander. I was raised in Owosso....

Talking about smaller, cheaper vehicles, in order for the world to go electric a standard battery must be developed for each type of vehicle. So you can have exchange centers (or vending machines) available when you get low on juice. You won't own your battery you'll use it for a fee (when...

Thanks for the advice. I always hate to talk about what I'm going to do. Because then everyone else does it and the price goes up. Sondors is looking pretty good to me. He is an upstart and a little gregarious. But The price of the bikes are good. Replacement batteries are cheap. And...I think...

We think alike... The proprietary Rad motor is something I'm going to avoid. This was my first choice at the outset. But, I just hate the concept of lessening performance just to save a couple bucks, and I really need some guts in my motor. The other manufacturer I was looking at batteries cost...

My bike is built on a weird frame. I love it a lot. I also hate it a lot. because many regular accessories won't work. This is a good idea though.

I've actually been pretty happy with this bike up until key failures in support and battery design occurred. It will get me up the mountain behind my house. Which I would have bet against at the outset. It was a mistake to get direct drive. But like you I was naive. I didn't want to do the...

Thanks. My present bike is a Ecotric Seagull, 1000 watt direct drive. Around here there are small steep hills and gullies off road in the park behind my house. This bike frequently stalls on them. I ride these areas 40% of the time. 60% of the time I ride parks with less steep hills and the bike...

Good one. Don't know if I need that much. BUT for the price...

That first video is the first one I refer to in my original post.

San Francisco has some hills. Thanks for your input.

That video is done by the same guy who does the Himiway/Rad head to head.

The Rad City is rated at 750 watts, but it is direct drive. So, it has half the nM of torque. So the model does matter.

Hello, I've considered a Rad Rover for a long time. But, the main issue that's held me back was an older YouTube video graphically stating that the Rad Rover's 750 watt motor is built with less power than a typical Bafang motor. Recently I saw another YouTube video where an owner of both bikes...

I'm trying to find them on the internet with no results. Thanks for the tip.