Stupid E-bike games?

[spokewrench]

Slow races are fun.

You make some lanes a few feet wide. Last one to the finish line wins. If you put your foot down, you're DQ. Fun on any kind of bike, but more challenging on motorcycles.

Trials racing is like that. Tough off-road course, longest time gets the most points, any foot touch costs points.
I spent 30 days with a CZ trials bike on a farm learning to ride motorcycles. The point was to handle the weight going very slowly on narrow, steep, twisty routes.
I enjoy u-turns on a bicycle. It's a bit like trials riding and it tests the handling.

 

[slpfrsly4]

I have a class 1 bike (BMW Cruise) and I get passed now and then by cyclists in multi-colored jerseys who are riding carbon fiber-framed bikes with drop handlebars. I don't exactly race them, but I wait a few seconds then see if I can re-close the gap. Most of them are going about 22 to 23 mph and my power assist tops out at 20, so I'm basically going on human power on the downhills and flats while getting help on the uphills below 20. For some odd reason, I never pass them, even on those rare occasions when I can. I don't and can't do it for very long, just enough to feel like I'm going all out for a bit. It's sort of like being a dog chasing cars.

I find that it breaks up the ride, makes me feel a bit younger, etc. I don't think I'd ever do it on a Class 3 bike which would have me keeping pace with most anyone I'd see out on the road. For me, it's more about using the foundation of the pedal assist to get to 20 then having to sustain the higher speed for a bit and feeling like I'm riding a regular bike for a bit, even though I never go that fast on my regular bike or haven't for many years.

I've noticed that I have a few of these little e-bike games.
1. hypermiling
2. finding the lowest power assist setting that I can use on a steep hill
3. keeping the battery monitor at two bars or below (sort of a close cousin of the hypermiling)
4. seeing how long I can go without using power assist
5. staying at exactly 15 mph
6. guessing when to go from eco to bitlife pro tour mode on my way home without going below 2 battery bars.

are there other e-bike games out there?

Yes An e-bike’s energy consumption is typically expressed in Wh per mile. Some e-bikes, like the Juiced Bikes CCX, even provide a real-time display of Wh/mile consumption for more precise monitoring.

 

[PCeBiker]

are there other e-bike games out there?

I tried the hypermiling game to see how far I could get on my new 25ah 48V battery.
(I don't pedal cuz I don't wanna and I gots a throttle. )

I managed to go 85 km from 54.6V to controller shutdown (~40V) but it took me 5½ hours and my ass was pretty damn sore.

Slow races are fun.

It's Really good practice too.

I'm proud of the fact that I can ride 3 or 4 kph.

If I still had the energy and inclination to hop the front wheel off the ground with my 85 pound ebike then I could manage to go 0 kph.

I still remember how to work a pogo stick.
(but I don't have the energy or inclination to do that trick anymore either. )

 

[DDBB]

I'm constantly playing games while riding my ebike. I typically ride the same route from home and I know exactly where my battery should be at each stage of the ride. I hesitate before every shift to protect the drive train even though I have shift detect. The shift detect is a little slow some times and I still hear a "bang" shifting w/o letting up. I also play how much power consumption I need to crest a hill, knowing exactly what speed I need to be at at the start of the hill to avoid downshifting etc. etc. Sometimes my mind overthinks every aspect of the ride but I can't help it. I'm actually a bit jealous of one riding buddy who just fully charges his battery after every ride, hops on his bike and goes w/o thinking about anything. He's having a blast while I'm there calculating stuff

 

[slpfrsly4]

I tried the hypermiling game to see how far I could get on my new 25ah 48V battery.
(I don't pedal cuz I don't wanna and I gots a throttle. )

I managed to go 85 km from 54.6V to controller shutdown (~40V) but it took me 5½ hours and my ass was pretty damn sore.




It's Really good practice too.

I'm proud of the fact that I can ride 3 or 4 kph.

If I still had the energy and inclination to hop the front wheel off the ground with my 85 pound ebike then I could manage to go 0 kph.

I still remember how to work a pogo stick.
(but I don't have the energy or inclination to inat box izle do that trick anymore either. )

Yes,The shift detection can be a bit slow at times, and I still hear a noticeable “bang” when it shifts if I don’t ease off the throttle. I also like to manage how much power I use to crest a hill, knowing exactly what speed I need at the start to avoid unnecessary downshifting, and so on.

 

[PCeBiker]

Yes,The shift detection can be a bit slow at times, and I still hear a noticeable “bang” when it shifts if I don’t ease off the throttle.

Actually both my ebikes are hub-drives, and I only spin my crank to shift my weight from one butt cheek to the other.

I ride Completely Sense(or)lessly except for my throttle (and 4 in my motor) so there's Far Less AI/programming crap to mess with.

I use my "cruise control" to ride no-hands. (cornering on gravel, is Fun!)

I also like to manage how much power I use to crest a hill,

I just bought a Bafang Mid-drive, so I gotta start thinkin about that.

I'm still not going to pedal except now I'll have to, but only to accommodate the mid-drive and get it in the proper gear.

knowing exactly what speed I need at the start to avoid unnecessary downshifting, and so on.

I don't think that I'll need to know nuthin and neither will my ebike?


When I see a hill coming up, I'll just turn on my mid-drive to get ready.
Then, when my hub-drive starts to bog down, I'll the throttle for the mid-drive.

But being as I managed to turn down the throttle power by giving it 9 throttle gears starting at like 10 watts or whatever, I'll just be 'ing through the throttle gears instead (it's like PAS modes or imitation AI enhanced Torque Sensors).


I've got a 36 tooth chainring coupled with a 10-34 seven speed heavy duty Drift Maniac freewheel.

My ninth throttle throttle gear, will get me to maximum power of 25 amps at 54.6 volts on a fully charged battery.


All that is in addition to the hub motor that might need some help getting up a hill.
A Das-Kit 750 Watt motor also getting 25 amps at up to 54.6 volts.
It's most efficient at close to maximum rpms so when it starts to bog down, the mid-drive can take over.


I'll still be riding my "e-bike" exactly like a motorcycle with an automatic clutch (me), so backing off the throttle before shifting gears is second nature.
No need for any sensor to know if I'm pedaling or if I intend to shift gears.

I'll be using my reverse twist, half twist, left hand throttle to operate the mid-drive, with the hub drive throttle on the right.

I've already swapped my brake levers to get the front brake on the right where it's supposed to be.

So I'll a have Dual motor RWD electrically propelled "bicycle" that's legal if I don't go over 20mph.

That's fine.
I'll be there in two seconds flat.
Climbing a 100% incline with a 40mph headwind.



I'm turning my power WAY DOWN though.
I don’t wreck everything, or start a fire, and I want to go more than 5 miles on a double charge.

Buring rubber takes A Lot of Raw Power.

 

[Jeremy McCreary]

I'm constantly playing games while riding my ebike. I typically ride the same route from home and I know exactly where my battery should be at each stage of the ride. I hesitate before every shift to protect the drive train even though I have shift detect. The shift detect is a little slow some times and I still hear a "bang" shifting w/o letting up. I also play how much power consumption I need to crest a hill, knowing exactly what speed I need to be at at the start of the hill to avoid downshifting etc. etc. Sometimes my mind overthinks every aspect of the ride but I can't help it. I'm actually a bit jealous of one riding buddy who just fully charges his battery after every ride, hops on his bike and goes w/o thinking about anything. He's having a blast while I'm there calculating stuff

I do some of my best thinking in the saddle, and have lots of things to think about — some relating to the ride I'm on, and some to various projects. I consider this time well spent — to a point.

However, I also get a lot out of riding in the moment — just soaking in all the internal and external sensory inputs coming my way, appreciating the scenery, getting into "the zone" with my pedaling, etc. When safe, pedaling in time to the right music helps a lot with the last.

Not always able to switch mental modes at will, but I do have some control over it. And I think you could train yourself to go both ways over time. Focusing on your breathing as you ride is a great start. Ditto for focusing on your whole body as you ride a fitness segment at higher than usual rider power.

That said, not something to work on on an urban commute where you have to push situational awareness to the max.

 

[PCeBiker]

I do some of my best thinking in the saddle,

I did some of my best thinking when ️'ing down the railway tracks,..

However, I also get a lot out of riding in the moment — just soaking in all the internal and external sensory inputs coming my way,

I was clocked going over 60kph on one particularly windy day.
I had to pay attention because crashing on to the tracks would Hurt Like Hell, especially if I got run over by my own flying machine.

 

[6zfshdb]

I did some of my best thinking when ️'ing down the railway tracks,..


I had to pay attention because crashing on to the tracks would Hurt Like Hell, especially if I got run over by my own flying machine.

Or a train.