Aventon Level 4 ADV
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Jeremy McCreary
Bought it anyway
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Guess it's up to you to start the ball rolling.
stompandgo
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We haven't seen one yet.
GuruUno
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OK then.
I picked up my new Aventon Level 4 ADV on April 10th from Island Scooters in Farmingdale, NJ.
Looking around, I wanted to do a test ride and they had quite a few to do so.
After my test ride, it was a no brainer.
For the amount of money and what you get, it was as easy as 1-2-3 and I became a new proud owner.
Today (4/27), after my 1st 200, miles and testing the technology bundled with the bike, I have to say it's a nice pleasure to see how far technology has come.
Being the owner over the last 10+ years of many different e-bikes (5 or 6), most costing in excess of $5,000 to + $8,000, I have to say it is rather refreshing to have a competitor that kind of presses all the right buttons.
Experimentation of the 'Auto-Shift', the cadence, the torque, etc. gives a wide range of testing to find that perfect "sweet spot" for the features offered, and as I eventually find the preferred settings, I'll say it's been a blast.
Even if this bike only gets 4k, 5k or maybe more before anything of major concern occurs to make me not want to embrace the newest technology I'd say so what. As an early adopter, that's what the fun is about. Being the 1st kid on the block to get the newest toys.
With that said, I won't bash Trek and Specialized with my past real world experiences, but for $2,799 it's a no brainer to get what you get for that amount of money.
Actually, if I was a bit younger (I'll be 75 in another month or so) I'd in a heartbeat have already bought the Aventon Current EXP for $5,999 (https://www.aventon.com/products/current-exp-ebike?variant=44981169488067)
The value is mind blowing for these bikes.
In the long run, I can only hope that they continue to perform and compete with the major players and not become junk.
If so, oh well, at least I can say I had the experience and the fun to try new technology and appreciate the value.
Quite frankly, I find it questionable if these bikes do live up to the promise as to how the others that cost almost double will survive.
Just like all other technology, computers, cars, etc., it's a blast to be on bleeding edge.
So, I'd highly recommend that in anyway possible, if you want to experience real value for the money you spend for an e-bike, give the Aventon a look.
I picked up my new Aventon Level 4 ADV on April 10th from Island Scooters in Farmingdale, NJ.
Looking around, I wanted to do a test ride and they had quite a few to do so.
After my test ride, it was a no brainer.
For the amount of money and what you get, it was as easy as 1-2-3 and I became a new proud owner.
Today (4/27), after my 1st 200, miles and testing the technology bundled with the bike, I have to say it's a nice pleasure to see how far technology has come.
Being the owner over the last 10+ years of many different e-bikes (5 or 6), most costing in excess of $5,000 to + $8,000, I have to say it is rather refreshing to have a competitor that kind of presses all the right buttons.
Experimentation of the 'Auto-Shift', the cadence, the torque, etc. gives a wide range of testing to find that perfect "sweet spot" for the features offered, and as I eventually find the preferred settings, I'll say it's been a blast.
Even if this bike only gets 4k, 5k or maybe more before anything of major concern occurs to make me not want to embrace the newest technology I'd say so what. As an early adopter, that's what the fun is about. Being the 1st kid on the block to get the newest toys.
With that said, I won't bash Trek and Specialized with my past real world experiences, but for $2,799 it's a no brainer to get what you get for that amount of money.
Actually, if I was a bit younger (I'll be 75 in another month or so) I'd in a heartbeat have already bought the Aventon Current EXP for $5,999 (https://www.aventon.com/products/current-exp-ebike?variant=44981169488067)
The value is mind blowing for these bikes.
In the long run, I can only hope that they continue to perform and compete with the major players and not become junk.
If so, oh well, at least I can say I had the experience and the fun to try new technology and appreciate the value.
Quite frankly, I find it questionable if these bikes do live up to the promise as to how the others that cost almost double will survive.
Just like all other technology, computers, cars, etc., it's a blast to be on bleeding edge.
So, I'd highly recommend that in anyway possible, if you want to experience real value for the money you spend for an e-bike, give the Aventon a look.
PedalUma
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- Petaluma, CA
If you go for Purple Haze you need these:
DaveMatthews
Dave's not here. Cheating since 2018
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Nice lookin' ride, congrats!
Jeremy McCreary
Bought it anyway
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- Carlsbad, CA
Nice looking bike! Glanced over the offical specs and product page. If the quality's like that of my neighbor's 2023 Level.2, looks like a good value as well.
Couldn't find the type of assist. Assuming at least torque-sensing assist on a mid-drive but could be more sophisticated — perhaps something akin to the power-sensing assist on Specialized mid-drives.
Couldn't find the type of assist. Assuming at least torque-sensing assist on a mid-drive but could be more sophisticated — perhaps something akin to the power-sensing assist on Specialized mid-drives.
stompandgo
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Chazmo
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And they have. The recent electronics and features seem quite advanced compared to the competition. I’m waiting to see how their (very recent) mid-drive motors work out for folks, including the OP. By the way, Aventon is the only company with a reasonably priced mid-drive fatty, and it uses their 100N-m motor along with wireless shifter. Very cool stuff. I don’t know if they’re selling any, but I presume they’ve taken some steps to insulate themselves from the economic forces that have been killing other companies.
GuruUno
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Finding that perfect shift point by adjusting auto shift parameters via cadence and torque are my only challenge. Yesterdays ride I made many stops to adjust up or down each and I think I seemingly found a point I'm content with.
Having had a Specialized Turbo Vado 5 (still do), and learning about 'Smart Mode' is what I am trying to replicate as for the assistance. The auto shifting is light years away from the Vado IGH I had and returned, it's just the terrain and the timing.
Me, I'd bet that they eventually get AI to interpret your previous rides, tie into GPS history, get stats, and auto adjust to a higher level. In a perfect world. Well at least one can dream.
Like I said, $2,799 and you get it all.
Having had a Specialized Turbo Vado 5 (still do), and learning about 'Smart Mode' is what I am trying to replicate as for the assistance. The auto shifting is light years away from the Vado IGH I had and returned, it's just the terrain and the timing.
Me, I'd bet that they eventually get AI to interpret your previous rides, tie into GPS history, get stats, and auto adjust to a higher level. In a perfect world. Well at least one can dream.
Like I said, $2,799 and you get it all.
Chazmo
fat-tire biker
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- Central Massachusetts
I’ll bet auto-shift is a nice feature for road-bikers. I can’t really wrap my head around it since I do mostly trail riding (and I’m kinda’ old school), but I’m glad Aventon has made inroads there. They (Aventon) are definitely leading the pack.
Gionnirocket
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Or maybe be participate in the ride and use your skills as there's enjoyment and a sense of sport in doing so.
Autoshift is the last thing I'd ever want on my bike... and that goes double for ai
ymmv
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PedalUma
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As with @Gionnirocket, I want to participate and be the master of my ride and not be passive in the back seat. I do understand that most North Americans are used to automatic transmissions and are lazy with a big gut. I want to downshift before a corner or climb. As with driving a manual sports car, I like to rev up before an acceleration. Most North Americans are twitterpated by geewiz gizmos that go bing and connect with a phone. For me that stuff is useless, but great for commissioned salespeople. Look, it has geewiz gizmos that connect to your phone! It is brilliant marketing. I admire that.
Jeremy McCreary
Bought it anyway
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- Carlsbad, CA
C'mon, guys! As long as the OP rides responsibly, there's no should here. If he wants to use auto-shift, that's his business. I strongly prefer to do my own shifting, too, but that doesn't mean I get to cram it down everyone else's throat.
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Jeremy McCreary
Bought it anyway
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Curious, how do the cadences at the optimal shift points you're finding compare to your own self-selected cadence (SSC)? That's the cadence you tend to gravitate to in steady pedaling when you're not thinking about cadence.
Studies have shown that SSC is usually just short of your personal cadence for peak rider power output and near the personal cadence for peak pedaling efficiency. Per Wilson and Schmidt, 2020, Bicycling Science, 4th ed., one good shifting strategy is to keep shift points within, say, 5-10 rpm of SSC.
Those findings were for riders on unmotorized bikes but seem to apply pretty well to my own ebike riding, which usually involves a fair amount of exertion.
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Rás Cnoic
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Nice looking bike. Aventon are doing a big launch in Europe this year for the first time, with the new flagship Full sus EMTB the Current at a very competitive price around €3,499. The in-house Ultra X motor was developed with Chinese giant Gobao, similar ride characteristics to the Avinox motor apparently, with Aventon doing the software. They worked in a similar way with Bafang for the Level ebikes. Should make any repairs straightforward if and when.OK then.
I picked up my new Aventon Level 4 ADV on April 10th from Island Scooters in Farmingdale, NJ.
Looking around, I wanted to do a test ride and they had quite a few to do so.
After my test ride, it was a no brainer.
For the amount of money and what you get, it was as easy as 1-2-3 and I became a new proud owner.
Today (4/27), after my 1st 200, miles and testing the technology bundled with the bike, I have to say it's a nice pleasure to see how far technology has come.
Being the owner over the last 10+ years of many different e-bikes (5 or 6), most costing in excess of $5,000 to + $8,000, I have to say it is rather refreshing to have a competitor that kind of presses all the right buttons.
Experimentation of the 'Auto-Shift', the cadence, the torque, etc. gives a wide range of testing to find that perfect "sweet spot" for the features offered, and as I eventually find the preferred settings, I'll say it's been a blast.View attachment 209263
Even if this bike only gets 4k, 5k or maybe more before anything of major concern occurs to make me not want to embrace the newest technology I'd say so what. As an early adopter, that's what the fun is about. Being the 1st kid on the block to get the newest toys.
With that said, I won't bash Trek and Specialized with my past real world experiences, but for $2,799 it's a no brainer to get what you get for that amount of money.
Actually, if I was a bit younger (I'll be 75 in another month or so) I'd in a heartbeat have already bought the Aventon Current EXP for $5,999 (https://www.aventon.com/products/current-exp-ebike?variant=44981169488067)
The value is mind blowing for these bikes.
In the long run, I can only hope that they continue to perform and compete with the major players and not become junk.
If so, oh well, at least I can say I had the experience and the fun to try new technology and appreciate the value.
Quite frankly, I find it questionable if these bikes do live up to the promise as to how the others that cost almost double will survive.
Just like all other technology, computers, cars, etc., it's a blast to be on bleeding edge.
So, I'd highly recommend that in anyway possible, if you want to experience real value for the money you spend for an e-bike, give the Aventon a look.
I loved the look of their Ramblas hard tail EMTB and it got great reviews across the board & I'm liking it when companies make reasonably priced ebikes instead of this stupid race to get more and more expensive. Competition is gooooood for us.
Gionnirocket
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I'm just providing my opinion and my choice to be more involved in my rides as I find it more engaging /enjoyable.
That and I don't think more tech/manufacturer involvement is necessarily a good thing. Another point is I don't enjoy riding like a marching machine and I alter my ride by how I'm feeling, the weather and how many pretty girls are on the path
... so why anyone would want to handover shift points to ai is beyond me.
In other words.... Ride the bike as you did as a kid without always overthininking it.
Enjoy.
That and I don't think more tech/manufacturer involvement is necessarily a good thing. Another point is I don't enjoy riding like a marching machine and I alter my ride by how I'm feeling, the weather and how many pretty girls are on the path
... so why anyone would want to handover shift points to ai is beyond me. In other words.... Ride the bike as you did as a kid without always overthininking it.
Enjoy.
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