Allan47.7339
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Specialized has updated the support site with a lot of information about their Turbo systems all in one place. I hope they continue the documentation trend.
Specialized Support site - Turbo Systems
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Allan47.7339
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Here is article posted today of the H3-Mastermind system used on the VadoSL 2. Read while you can before someone in corporate decides it needs be behind the dealer login.
Jeremy McCreary
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Excellent resource!
From the Battery Capacity Explained artice, a definitive to answer to a recent debate over how charge cycles are counted:
I take this as permission to top off my Vado SL's smallish battery whenever I see fit without worrying about shortening battery service life or guarantee period.
Good lesson on misinformation: Turns out, the folks who were dead-sure that a new cycle starts every time you charge were dead-wrong. Had no idea who was right at the time.
Stefan Mikes
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The information that a "charging cycle" is made of the charging increments was clear to aware Specialized e-bike riders a long time ago
Now, it is available in a proper written form, which I greatly appreciate.Now, you cannot say topping up the battery after each ride does not shorten the battery service life; it does. The lithium-ion battery lives long when it is maintained between the 20 and 80% State Of Charge. For me, it is impractical, so I do top up my batteries post each ride. However, I rotate my 4 Range Extenders between the rides, and set up Vado SL the way the energy is primarily drawn from Range Extenders. Still, my main battery has accumulated some 140 charging cycles already. Now, the main battery is already below 300 Wh, and Range Extenders are at about 150 Wh, meaning a serious degradation.
You would charge your Vado SL carefree for 2 years and then what?
Taking into account your use of the assistance is very low, you might consider setting the Charge Limit (80%) using the Specialized App, and enjoy your battery healthy for a long, long time!
Allan47.7339
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Reading through the new article Turbo Technology: Specialized SL 1.2 Motor, it turns out the SL 1.2 will only draw maximum 70% power when only using a RE battery. Who knew? This will be of interest to people who plan to fly and tour with their Creo's and Vado SL 1s.
Lithium batteries just like the riders age and not all of the systems will function at 100% over time . I've been charging my Creo SL battery carefree for three years and it's still in the 90's.
Lithium batteries just like the riders age and not all of the systems will function at 100% over time . I've been charging my Creo SL battery carefree for three years and it's still in the 90's.
Jeremy McCreary
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Good points. But I'm not topping up after every ride. Putting 70-90 mi/week on the Vado SL 5.0 now and recharging every 3rd ride or so — till now, usually to 100%.
Well aware of the 20-80% state of charge recommended for Li ion batteries from my first ebike (960 Wh). Initially thought that the SL's 320 Wh was too small for that luxury, but range is turning out to be WAY better than expected.
So I'm trying that 80% charging limit in the app tonight. We'll see how it goes. Nice touch to show that the limit's in effect on the TCU.
Tuesday's 30-mile ride up the coast and along the lower San Luis Rey River was instructive in this regard.
Only 45% battery used on this flattish ride done mostly in ECO. This can only mean one thing: No RE for the foreseeable future!
Will have more photos from the San Luis Rey Trail when we go back to ride a longer section next week. Very relaxing.
One odd highlight: An abandoned freeway ramp to nowhere leading up from the trail (off to the right) near the Oceanside end. For some reason, the ramp just dead-ends ~100 ft short of the San Diego Freeway. Looking east up the river here.
Gratuitous bike shot showing the difference between the SL's "Brassy Yellow" and the more golden yellow of a sunflower petal.
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Allan47.7339
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They've got a good video of the 1.2 motor operation in the various modes.
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