Rotors for 2-piston Shimano BR-MT410 extremely limited?

Ringo9

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My ebike came with 160mm front rotor (it's got 180mm at the back for some reason) which I find small for the weight, motor, speed characteristics. I want to upgrade, once, and go with 203mm.
To my surprise, the BR-MT410 2-piston calipers are extremely limited in rotor options, or so does Shimano want you to believe?
These calipers support only the so-called "WIDE" pad type, which in turn only supports specific rotors (as listed in Shimano's compatibility chart, mostly rotors on the cheap end apart from a SM-RT30 centerlock which doesn't work on my 6-bolt setup anyway) and will result in less contact area between pad and rotor. As I understand it, these pads are slightly higher than the pads on 4-pistons, and so need a larger contact area (in terms of height/contact diameter) on the rotor to work as they should.

https://productinfo.shimano.com/en/compatibility/C-461

Shimano BR-MT410 2-piston


I want to install a decent MDR-C 203mm rotor from Magura, not after top performance racing stuff but neither entry level ones, like the one in the link. I believe most non-Shimano rotors are similar anyway in how much contact area they offer to the pads, but apparently these will not work well with my caliper and pads type/shape. Is that really true? If so these must be the most pointless calipers to get on a bike: More expensive than the basic models, but a bit cheaper than full 4-pistons, still only compatible with the cheapest entry level rotors, why bother?

https://www.magura.com/en/EUR/bicycle_tuning_&_spare_parts_rotors_rotor_mdr-c/p/mdr-c

Or that's all Shimano marketing and I should go ahead and buy any aftermarket 203mm rotor?
 
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just had a look on the bikes in the workshop here. measured a few diffent makes and type of rotors. All measure between 16 and 17mm on the highest point. mix of 140, 160, 180 and 203 rotors from Tektro, Shimano, Sram and Magura.

what do you measure at you rotor?
 
My ebike came with 160mm front rotor (it's got 180mm at the back for some reason) which I find small for the weight, motor, speed characteristics. I want to upgrade, once, and go with 203mm.
To my surprise, the BR-MT410 2-piston calipers are extremely limited in rotor options, or so does Shimano want you to believe?
These calipers support only the so-called "WIDE" pad type, which in turn only supports specific rotors (as listed in Shimano's compatibility chart, mostly rotors on the cheap end apart from a SM-RT30 centerlock which doesn't work on my 6-bolt setup anyway) and will result in less contact area between pad and rotor. As I understand it, these pads are slightly higher than the pads on 4-pistons, and so need a larger contact area (in terms of height/contact diameter) on the rotor to work as they should.

https://productinfo.shimano.com/en/compatibility/C-461

Shimano BR-MT410 2-piston


I want to install a decent MDR-C 203mm rotor from Magura, not after top performance racing stuff but neither entry level ones, like the one in the link. I believe most non-Shimano rotors are similar anyway in how much contact area they offer to the pads, but apparently these will not work well with my caliper and pads type/shape. Is that really true? If so these must be the most pointless calipers to get on a bike: More expensive than the basic models, but a bit cheaper than full 4-pistons, still only compatible with the cheapest entry level rotors, why bother?

https://www.magura.com/en/EUR/bicycle_tuning_&_spare_parts_rotors_rotor_mdr-c/p/mdr-c

Or that's all Shimano marketing and I should go ahead and buy any aftermarket 203mm rotor?


WHY! do you want to "upgrade" that is what is missing
 
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"My ebike came with 160mm front rotor (it's got 180mm at the back for some reason) which I find small for the weight, motor, speed characteristics. I want to upgrade, once, and go with 203mm."
 
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just had a look on the bikes in the workshop here. measured a few diffent makes and type of rotors. All measure between 16 and 17mm on the highest point. mix of 140, 160, 180 and 203 rotors from Tektro, Shimano, Sram and Magura.

what do you measure at you rotor?

Thanks for that. Do you mean 16-17mm between the inner diameter of the rotor where the big pockets are, to the outer diameter? In other words the contact area height for the pad?

If so, I just measured 16,7-17mm on mine (depending on how parallel I can get my caliper) but seems to be the same value. In other words the rotors you measured should provide the same contact area 👍

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Ringo, where are you getting that info from? Any reason not to just try it?
Just browsing Shimano's literature. Maybe that's a Shimano rotors and pads thing though and aftermarket rotors are made to work with both pad types? Don't want to waste 30-40 EUR just to try, it surely must be something others have come across.

Can you use a mount adapter? I don't know if it's possible or safe.
For sure, and I will. I have found the correct type but that's not an issue. The question of whether these aftermarket rotors will play nicely with my pads (specific to my calipers as it seems) is what I'm trying to figure out.


WHY! do you want to "upgrade" that is what is missing
I wrote exactly why, as pointed out already by another member. So, my decision is taken already. The question is not why or if, but with what I should upgrade my current front rotor.
 
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