Rohloff cable management on Load 60

[tubazoltan]

Hi,

I have a Load 60 with the Enviolo rear hub. The frame is the 2018 model, with the old rear triangle. The bike came equipped with an Enviolo rear hub, now I am about to install a Rohloff hub. The two shifter cables for the Enviolo run on the right side of the rear triangle, but with the Rohloff the two shifter cables should be on the left side (on the same side as the hydraulic hoses for the rear brake). As the Load did have a version factory-equipped with the Rohloff (suposedly at least, as it hes the Rohloff dropout, with the long slot on the left side), I am sure they have a factory-standard-way of routing the cables to the Rohloff hub on the left side. However, I can not find a picture of this on the internet.

In case you need identification:

This is the new rear triangle (here the cables run inside the frame):

And this is the old one, which I have (actually I have this exact bike):

If any of you has a similar Load (like this blue one) with the Rohloff, would you be so kind as to provide me with a few pictures of the cables running from the handlebar to the hub? I could of course solve this with cable ties, but I am more curious of the "neat way" to do this.

Thank you in advance!

Zoltán

 

[JVBulman]

Hi Zoltán,

The current Load uses the e14 system and the nondriveside chainstay of the rear triangle is drilled to accommodate the single wire that runs from the drive unit to the shifter unit on the hub. Assuming you're mounting a mechanical Rohloff setup, I don't believe internal routing will be an option - in which case, the tidiest routing I can think of would be running the two shift housing lines along the rear brake line (either sharing the hydro guides on the frame or being zip-tied directly to the hose) under the top tube, down the the nondriveside seatstay, and orienting the shifter unit at the axle of Rohloff so that it points upward Similar to this (note the V-brake noodles):



Hope this helps!

(PS: don't forget to have your drive unit settings adjusted to reflect the wider range of the Rohloff!)

 

[tubazoltan]

Hi Zoltán,

The current Load uses the e14 system and the nondriveside chainstay of the rear triangle is drilled to accommodate the single wire that runs from the drive unit to the shifter unit on the hub. Assuming you're mounting a mechanical Rohloff setup, I don't believe internal routing will be an option - in which case, the tidiest routing I can think of would be running the two shift housing lines along the rear brake line (either sharing the hydro guides on the frame or being zip-tied directly to the hose) under the top tube, down the the nondriveside seatstay, and orienting the shifter unit at the axle of Rohloff so that it points upward Similar to this (note the V-brake noodles):



Hope this helps!

(PS: don't forget to have your drive unit settings adjusted to reflect the wider range of the Rohloff!)

Hi,

Thank you for this, and sorry for the delayed reply. I have already finished the job before reading your suggestion. Here are some photos of what I came up with, in case anyone will be interested in the future:

I have also thought of the shifter unit pointing upwards, but didn't like the idea of water accidentally running into it.

By the way: what exactly are the "drive unit settings" that need to be adjusted? What will be different after the adjustments? Currently I am running the same settings as with the Enviolo hub and seems to work perfectly.

(FYI: I have also asked Riese und Müller, and in their reply they stated that they never shipped this bike with a Rohloff hub fitted in the factory. I asked why the bike has a Rohlof drop out in this case, but never received an answer to this question.)


Zoltán

 

[JVBulman]

Well done!

The drive unit settings I mentioned are adjusting the minimum/maximum gearing within the Bosch firmware to reflect the wider range of the Rohloff. I believe it has to be done by a shop, but it's not going to mess anything up if you aren't able to have it done.

The extended Rohloff dropouts came on a few models that lacked a Rohloff configuration option. My guess is the frames were designed with the option in mind before the configuration options were finalized. The Packster 40/60/80 were the same way and I'm going to die mad they never released a Rohloff Packster 80.

 

[Tys]

Nice to see this! I was going to get a new Rohloff Load, but then found a great deal on a used Nuvinci (380 hub) model like yours. I’d love to retrofit a Rohloff one day. There seem to be so many different Rohloff models, do you mind sharing the specifications of the hub you used? Same size sprocket on the Rohloff as you had with the Nuvinci/Enviolo?
Supposedly the Rohloff is quite a bit more efficient, is it noticeable in terms of pedaling effort or range?

Cheers,
Ryan

 

[webcurl]

Supposedly the Rohloff is quite a bit more efficient, is it noticeable in terms of pedaling effort or range?

Good question!

 

[tubazoltan]

Good question!

Hi,

I am not sure if it is psychological only, but I certainly feel that the bike rolls much easier, and I tend to use ECO setting much more than before, so that muat have a positive effect on the range.

I am running a 19 tooth sprocket at the front and 21 at the rear, because I have a lot of hills to climb. No problems so far, and I didn't have the motor reprogrammed.

All in all, it os a much better bike with the Rohloff than with the Enviolo.

Zoltán