Not Sure What The Four Green Lights Are For

reed scott

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My battery is a 48v 21 Ah Reention battery. I've got the battery down to abut 60% by the Bafang display's reading. But still have all 4 of the green lights glowing when the button is pressed. This makes me wonder as to just what they tell you?
 
The better question might be how accurate those 4 lights they really are?

I would have a tendency to believe the display (assuming it's set up properly), but clearly somebody is failing to tell the truth.

A volt meter reading would tell you which for sure...
 
I'm wondering if the four lights are NOT an indicator of the total amount of charge. Rather they are a warning of level of discharge. I'm guessing they all stay on till one is close to running out of battery and when you see 3 rather than 4 you haven't much power left. Totally guessing. Somebody out there knows for sure. Please help. 👍
 
I can tell you with a fairly high degree of certainty, that those 4 lights are a mickey mouse, very low quality voltage/state of charge indicator. If they all are still lighting when you're at 60%, that's proof of their questionable validity.

And you do have a voltmeter available. Just go into your display setting and change the one that gives you a choice of readings in % or in volts.
 
Bump for an answer. I know somebody knows. Please help. 👍
I can tell you with a fairly high degree of certainty, that those 4 lights are a mickey mouse, very low quality voltage/state of charge indicator. If they all are still lighting when you're at 60%, that's proof of their questionable validity.

And you do have a voltmeter available. Just go into your display setting and change the one that gives you a choice of readings in % or in volts.
 
Built-in battery leds aren't going to tell you much more than whether or not you remembered to do a full charge of yesterday's empty battery. Use your display's numbers, or better yet take a voltage reading off the battery's main terminals (be very careful not to touch the leads together--you will fry things if you do).

I'm wondering if the four lights are NOT an indicator of the total amount of charge. Rather they are a warning of level of discharge.
No. Zero chance. That would cost more and would confuse people.
 
Do you have a manual for your battery?
LED = blue full - green half - red charge
 
The are just 'dumb' pre-programmed voltage levels, which means they are prone to being fooled by the unusual lithium battery discharge curve. The controller display on most bikes uses an algorithm to estimate the battery discharge rate based on the inputs of a number of variables. This is how they get a little closer to accuracy, but still has a pretty wide range of variability if you are altering settings and riding style throughout your ride.. All devices that are designed for lithium batteries need to have an algorithm that accounts for storage time/operating time/draw rate/settings, etc. to provide any kind of reasonable accuracy.

My bike and batteries have a similar issue, and they decline much later then the main display indicates. Once they do start to drop off though, they drop fast just as i expect. I know not to trust the battery LED's for range estimation at all. They just help me know which ones on the shelf are fully charged or not.

As an anecdote from my previous other life as a fire chief and mountain rescue manager, this was a life and death issue when lithium AAA and AA batteries became widely available and started to be used in avalanche transceivers. Lithium batteries were marketed and sold as superior in cold weather due to their voltage stability in the cold and their long storage life. However after a few fatalities where Transceivers failed very quickly after an incident, it was discovered that we were all unaware that the devices would show full battery until the last 10-15% of the batteries capacity, then decline and fail in a very short period of time. Some devices stopped transmitting right after a burial, and they couldn't be located by their friends, and others were doomed when their friends batteries suddenly 'died' right after they shifted into the power intensive 'search mode'. We soon received alerts and notices from the device manufacturers telling us not to use lithium batteries at all, and some other manufacturers simply added a new algorithm that used time since install and usage stats to estimate the lifespan of a set of batteries. Those devices had to be set every time you removed a battery to indicated if you had replaced them with lithium or alkaline, so it could switch between 'time' mode, or 'voltage' mode. Even then, we would often pull out lithium's after the scheduled replacement time, and be able to burn them off for a significant amount of time in flashlights and other less critical 'dumb' devices.
 
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