I can you about the srounging around and trying to go the "cheap" route. Sometimes it gets turned around and ends up biting you in the ass. I bought a 11 year old Sun EZ3 HD delta type semi-recumbent trike on a consignment sale from a LBS. I e-mailed Sun to find out the date it was made. It was literley in brand new condition. No wear on the cloth padded seat, no grime or rust on the chain or gears, and the Maxix Hookworm 53-406 tires still had all the mold marks and nubs of rubber that new tires have. The price was $890.00 So I thought great. I knew that I could buy a conversion kit for $650 (4 years ago) without a battery. (I used the 48v20ah battery from my first e-trike. I could get a front wheel kit from E-Bike Kit and it would be the same as The Sun EZ3 trike that thier sister company (ElectricTrike) sold for $2750 at the time. It was and worked good except there was no traction on the front wheel because of no wieght being on it. Even after putting 40-406 Winter studded snow tire on the front motored wheel the 500watt still would spin. Next step was a 750 watt Bafang Mid drive ($600) to power the right rear wheel, Winter studded 55-406 and a Schwalbe Pickup 55-406 on the left so the tire psi would be the same for both rear wheels. Another $500 for a 52v28.8ah battery to power the 2nd motor. And probably around $700 total to remove the under the seat steering, build a front head tube steering system with "Ape" type handlebars to mount all the throttles controls and the displays for both motors. A new indexed 7-speed shifter. (I did not like the twist shifter and the cable was to short to be used with the ape bars.) Running 3100mm long brake cables and tubes to the 2 rear disc brakes. I just checked Electric Trike is selling the Sun EZ3 right now for $3,514.00 plus shipping. So I probably "saved" a few dollars overall. And have a 3x2 driven e-trike that can really go in the snow and ice. And it has 90 plus miles of range if I don't use both motors at the same time.. You are right that "GrinTech" is first class. The 8TGMAC was the only choice to put into the RV-2 velo. The prices for velomobiles are crazy. The base price is $9,000.00 AUD ($6120.00 USD) plus extra options. I went with the RV-2 because the roto-molded fairing is much more durable than the fiberglass or carbon fiber on the velo's from europe. I've tipped mine twice and you can hardly see the scratches. The total cost including shipping costs and customs brokerage and duties and motor kit from Grin was about the same as the velo's from Europe without customs, shipping. and motor. About the only extra customisation I am thinking to do is to send the boom's bottom bracket to Utah Trike to machine and install a 34T Schlumpf High Speed Drive. The 2.5 to 1 drive would make the 34T chain ring equal to a 85T. That would let me pedal on flat ground faster than the e-motor. I think that 35-40 mph would be possable. And the 34T would give me a much lower gear ratio for starting up than the 58T front chainring does now.