Long time Ebike rejoining after long time away

Garbonz

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Long term Ebike, started with the Iococco Ebike, tidal force, optibike 400, 600, 800R, now have a Allroad and Pioneer Carbon. Trying to keep up with the explosion.
 
Well the Optibikes ate better then 90% of the items we are forcefully fed for awhile- 500watts motor, 500wh batteries for 7-1000$... heavy frames...
So yoh are still way ahead of the curve then most.
Q- how would you comapre an optibike Pioneer carbon with a high end e bike - a Bulls, Stromer , Specialized, etc ?
 
I find the experience of the Opti mid motor, so much better than any other approach, including the Bosch like attempts at mid motors that nothing else means much to me. Nowadays all of these motors and batteries have more power and range than I use. But I am a road biker not trail. The Allroad and Carbon are also essentially silent, which is pretty cool also.

I have known Jim Turner since like forever, and he is the real deal, honest to the core and an incredible inventor. wichout his innovations we wouldn't even have mid-motors, in my opinion, of course.
 
Yea amazing stuff they make, this Pioneer bike is 35lb , with the 500wh probably does 60-80miles.
I know only of Haibikr making carbon e bikes , thiers start at 9k. I am a road biker too, or i was , now with the e bike i do all my rides and grocery, don’t care to put my spandex suit any longer.
 
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