I can see clearly now.,?

kevinmccune

kevinmccune

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I will be 66 in a couple of weeks and so far so good on my vision, however I have learned about bad things concerning the retina( skeet shooting bad, hard blows to head, etc) There are stretches on the bike route that are so rough, literally, your teeth could chatter and vision turns into a blur. Having finally escaped construction work without much more than a bad back, it would be a shame to go blind riding a bicycle.( jack hammers and drills are not the funniest things to run and they shake your head to pieces)
The question is" Can rough stretches of road affect your vision permanately? or cause retina to detach?
 
Goodness, I hope not! I'd never heard that, but someone here is bound to know something. Reminds me, I need an eye exam

"I can see clearly now the rain is gone
I can see all obstacles in my way
Gone are the dark clouds that had me blind

It's gonna be a bright - bright - bright sunshiny day"
 
I don't know about detached retinas, but I absolutely hate that high frequency vibration I think you're talking about (I have a couple hours running a jack hammer while breaking up concrete).

I see it most going over grassy sections of trail on my rides, especially if it hasn't rained in a while and the ground is as hard as a rock. My bikes are all equipped with suspension seat posts, comfort seats (Cloud 9), air or spring front suspensions, and the biggest tires that will fit, that are run at the lowest pressures practical. Sure, still not like riding on good pavement, but I think it's about the best I'm going to get all things considered. -Al
 
AHicks said:
I don't know about detached retinas, but I absolutely hate that high frequency vibration I think you're talking about (I have a couple hours running a jack hammer while breaking up concrete).

I see it most going over grassy sections of trail on my rides, especially if it hasn't rained in a while and the ground is as hard as a rock. My bikes are all equipped with suspension seat posts, comfort seats (Cloud 9), air or spring front suspensions, and the biggest tires that will fit, that are run at the lowest pressures practical. Sure, still not like riding on good pavement, but I think it's about the best I'm going to get all things considered. -Al
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We used to get stuck trying to drill quartzite with hardened steel bits after about one 2-4' hole you had to ride those things and inhaling all that nice carcinogenic dust we knew our bosses loved us( moral-- never go to work for a hierarchy) after the horrible stinging and pseudo` itching you wanted to throw those things of a cliff. My bone structure is such that vibration went to my cranium, my spindly arms had a death grip on that infernal device( OTH it had to be better than what John Henry used" A real steel driving man!)
 
I raced motorcycles MX, desert, & enduros for years belonged to several clubs/racing organizations. Worked construction for about 40 years witnessed a lot jack hammer use & never heard of a retina detachment. In all the construction safety training I've done there has never been a mention of retina detachment. I'd like to see (no pun intended) an article on this if you have a link please post it.
If your bike path is making your teeth chatter & blurring your vision I would find a new route that just sounds miserable.
 
I think this depends on the individual. Some may be more prone to retinal detachment than others.

I'm not sure what bike you ride but the saddles, tires, suspension seatposts and front suspension forks mentioned above all help smooth out a rough ride.

I have all the above and got some additional relief from rough trails by adding a Redshift suspension stem. In my case, using the softest elastomer eliminates a great deal of the high frequency vibration. Results will vary with the type of bars you have.
 
Lbrava said:
I raced motorcycles MX, desert, & enduros for years belonged to several clubs/racing organizations. Worked construction for about 40 years witnessed a lot jack hammer use & never heard of a retina detachment. In all the construction safety training I've done there has never been a mention of retina detachment. I'd like to see (no pun intended) an article on this if you have a link please post it.
If your bike path is making your teeth chatter & blurring your vision I would find a new route that just sounds miserable.
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True and true,I was always of the opinion when something gave me dark spots when I did it couldn't be good for the retinas, I am afraid too many detached retinas go undiagnosed I have been around a good many old school construction workers with vision problems, what clued me in was the "trap shooters starting to develop retinal detachment from the recoil of the skeet guns, you never hear this discussed for a number of reasons .If I never pick up another pneumatic drill it will be too soon and you never hear about the respiratory problems many loggers get either, everything is fine then one day its a thing.I can still see the "Milky Way and Mizar and Alcor( plus a nebula or two) and Intend to keep it that way. My problem on my ride is that trail bikes use it too and they tear it to pieces,I was rock picking the route, no more, it was fun while it lasted
Seriously I am glad it never affected your vision,I have heard of people detaching their retinas by lifting too heavy a weight( not to mention the pugilists).
 
6zfshdb said:
I think this depends on the individual. Some may be more prone to retinal detachment than others.

I'm not sure what bike you ride but the saddles, tires, suspension seatposts and front suspension forks mentioned above all help smooth out a rough ride.

I have all the above and got some additional relief from rough trails by adding a Redshift suspension stem. In my case, using the softest elastomer eliminates a great deal of the high frequency vibration. Results will vary with the type of bars you have.
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That actually sounds like a good idea, does that help with the hands going numb as well?
 
kevinmccune said:
I will be 66 in a couple of weeks and so far so good on my vision, however I have learned about bad things concerning the retina( skeet shooting bad, hard blows to head, etc) There are stretches on the bike route that are so rough, literally, your teeth could chatter and vision turns into a blur. Having finally escaped construction work without much more than a bad back, it would be a shame to go blind riding a bicycle.( jack hammers and drills are not the funniest things to run and they shake your head to pieces)
The question is" Can rough stretches of road affect your vision permanately? or cause retina to detach?
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Hello,

My suggestion..Have your eyes promptly examined by an Ophthalmologist, ( no excuses) ask your questions
and report back to us. We'd like to know.

The last thing you want to do is ask a bunch of knuckleheads like us for medical advice. We can't even agree
on throttle or no throttle.... ( No throttle) :)

What we can agree on is some of the gear to make bike riding more comfortable as listed below.


As for bike riding you wrote...."There are stretches on the bike route that are so rough, literally, your teeth
could chatter and vision turns into a blur. " I'm assuming the bike route is paved ? I rode an a paved rail trail
today in CT that was just as you described....It was awful.

There are things to soften the ride. Here's a few links. Yes, A these products are pricy, but
you get what you pay for, they work.

I have the seat post on both my e-bikes and they are fantastic ! !

https://cirruscycles.com/products/kinekt-active-suspension-seatpost

The same company makes the suspension stem below. I've read great things about it,
but don't own one. I'm going to order one.

cirruscycles.com

Suspension Stem

Introducing the Revolutionary Active Suspension Stem that is designed to reduce arm, wrist, and shoulder discomfort for all bikers. Adjustable, Compact, and built to last. The Ultimate Upgrade™
cirruscycles.com cirruscycles.com

Handle Bar Grips can make a huge difference...
Both of the products below are available in the US even those
these products made in Germany.

www.sq-lab.com

SQlab GmbH Online Shop | Grip 702 L | Ergonomic bike equipment

SQlab bicycle grips ✓Relieving ✓Comfortable ✓Ergonomic - Grip 702 by SQlab purchase at SQlab. ✓Delivery 0€ ✓Fast Delivery ✓Award Winner
www.sq-lab.com www.sq-lab.com
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Grips Products · Ergon Bike

www.ergonbike.com www.ergonbike.com
[/URL]

Gel Gloves...and absolute have..
https://www.restoration.bike/cycling-gloves/best-cycling-gloves-for-hand-numbness/

You didn't mention the type of bike you ride, front suspension ? mountain, touring, etc as well as the tires size.

Good luck,
John
 
John from Connecticut said:
Hello,

My suggestion..Have your eyes promptly examined by an Ophthalmologist, ( no excuses) ask your questions
and report back to us. We'd like to know.

The last thing you want to do is ask a bunch of knuckleheads like us for medical advice. We can't even agree
on throttle or no throttle.... ( No throttle) :)

What we can agree on is some of the gear to make bike riding more comfortable as listed below.


As for bike riding you wrote...."There are stretches on the bike route that are so rough, literally, your teeth
could chatter and vision turns into a blur. " I'm assuming the bike route is paved ? I rode an a paved rail trail
today in CT that was just as you described....It was awful.

There are things to soften the ride. Here's a few links. Yes, A these products are pricy, but
you get what you pay for, they work.

I have the seat post on both my e-bikes and they are fantastic ! !

https://cirruscycles.com/products/kinekt-active-suspension-seatpost

The same company makes the suspension stem below. I've read great things about it,
but don't own one. I'm going to order one.

cirruscycles.com

Suspension Stem

Introducing the Revolutionary Active Suspension Stem that is designed to reduce arm, wrist, and shoulder discomfort for all bikers. Adjustable, Compact, and built to last. The Ultimate Upgrade™
cirruscycles.com cirruscycles.com

Handle Bar Grips can make a huge difference...
Both of the products below are available in the US even those
these products made in Germany.

www.sq-lab.com

SQlab GmbH Online Shop | Grip 702 L | Ergonomic bike equipment

SQlab bicycle grips ✓Relieving ✓Comfortable ✓Ergonomic - Grip 702 by SQlab purchase at SQlab. ✓Delivery 0€ ✓Fast Delivery ✓Award Winner
www.sq-lab.com www.sq-lab.com
[/URL]

Grips Products · Ergon Bike

www.ergonbike.com www.ergonbike.com
[/URL]

Gel Gloves...and absolute have..
https://www.restoration.bike/cycling-gloves/best-cycling-gloves-for-hand-numbness/

You didn't mention the type of bike you ride, front suspension ? mountain, touring, etc as well as the tires size.

Good luck,
John
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Its not paved its more of a logging road torn up by trail bikes its the only place that has a good length around here, the circuit is 16 miles any other trails can only be used by horses, feet and acoustic bikes, not too long ago had an exam by an eye doctor who did the usual checked the retina and the other crazy things with the pupil dilated, next appointment in a few should tell the tale.
The bike has a suspension fork( low end Zoom 30 and rear suspension) the motorcycles keep this road torn up, I used to stop and pick rocks now I dont bother, this bike rides a lot better then the fat tire bike I have.What will probably happen is this I will abandon this route and just stick to the secondary paved roads, will try to avoid traffic, really no reason to ride the rough stuff anymore.I know my bikes are low end, my current internet setup precludes any easy picture sharing will try later to post some, thanks. , the tires are on the small side 2.1 X 26 it was supposed to come equipped with 2.5s( never happened), the best description on the bikes is pseudo MTB.
 
If you have never tuned your front and rear shock to your weight, it can make a big difference.

Your fork is probably a spring style. But you can still dial in more or take out preload to adjust the ride.
Your rear shock should be able to have some type of tuning done as well.
 
kevinmccune said:
Its not paved its more of a logging road torn up by trail bikes its the only place that has a good length around here, the circuit is 16 miles any other trails can only be used by horses, feet and acoustic bikes, not too long ago had an exam by an eye doctor who did the usual checked the retina and the other crazy things with the pupil dilated, next appointment in a few should tell the tale.
The bike has a suspension fork( low end Zoom 30 and rear suspension) the motorcycles keep this road torn up, I used to stop and pick rocks now I dont bother, this bike rides a lot better then the fat tire bike I have.What will probably happen is this I will abandon this route and just stick to the secondary paved roads, will try to avoid traffic, really no reason to ride the rough stuff anymore.I know my bikes are low end, my current internet setup precludes any easy picture sharing will try later to post some, thanks. , the tires are on the small side 2.1 X 26 it was supposed to come equipped with 2.5s( never happened), the best description on the bikes is pseudo MTB.
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Hello again,

Thanks for your complete and prompt reply. I'm encouraged to hear your bike has a suspension fork and rear suspension. I also like what Member 'ruffruff' wrote about
tuning your front and rear shocks, good advice. I listed a 'ton' of things to help with softening the ride. I also understand budgets, I'm retired. If I were to buy one
thing, I'd buy a good pair of Gel padded Bike gloves if you don't have them already. The other things can wait.

John
 
Hope not, I had a horse shoe retinal tear in my right eye about 10 years ago. Pretty unnerving when they strap down your head and zap your eye countless times to weld it up!
 
John from Connecticut said:
Hello again,

Thanks for your complete and prompt reply. I'm encouraged to hear your bike has a suspension fork and rear suspension. I also like what Member 'ruffruff' wrote about
tuning your front and rear shocks, good advice. I listed a 'ton' of things to help with softening the ride. I also understand budgets, I'm retired. If I were to buy one
thing, I'd buy a good pair of Gel padded Bike gloves if you don't have them already. The other things can wait.

John
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OK, going to acquire some gloves they would have helped with the crashes as well, thanks.
 
Rome said:
I wear this.
I have full suspension Emtbs.
@ruffruff I was watching MIPS thread last night while stoned on my meds. I was wondering what kinds of helmets are Lamere branded if any?
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Good,I can get these at the wonderful Wally world! ThankS, its a little on the cool side this morning try to take a tour later on.40F
 
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