Grizl:ON CF 7 - Puppy Delivered to Vet

[BlackHand]

I think it looks like a pretty good placement regardless. Yes Stefan, Bosch uses a rigid hinged split ring with a screw to tighten. A 22mm with a 3mm gap is probably a better fit than trying to shim down a much bigger ring in that area.

I did something similar on my bike, its just a lot more complicated because the controller on the BES2 bikes is wired and a lot bulkier.

 

[Stefan Mikes]

I think it looks like a pretty good placement regardless. Yes Stefan, Bosch uses a rigid hinged split ring with a screw to tighten. A 22mm with a 3mm gap is probably a better fit than trying to shim down a much bigger ring in that area.

I did something similar on my bike, its just a lot more complicated because the controller on the BES2 bikes is wired and a lot bulkier.

The mystery resolved! Thank you, Steve! You wouldn't believe how many hinged split rings I could not close because of the gap! It was because the holes in both halves didn't point at each other.
So the Mini Remote is wireless? Yay!

 

[Catalyzt]

One of the nicer things about the BES3 Bosch system is its flexibility. A manufacturer can design an e-bike with *design* as the priority, like this bike. The Pinarello Nytro is another one. Clean lines. Minimal options. Pick your assist and just ride. If you want to switch assist modes with the terrain, like an e-MTB, add a remote. The manufacturer has no idea what you plan to do with the bike once you purchase it. Catalyzt is a fiddler. He wants to dial in performance in multiple domains at any moment on his rides. Good for him. He needs a remote. Other guys may just want to ride at a single assist level and let their legs and the gearing adapt to the terrain. They don't need a remote.

On my BES2 bike, I switch modes maybe twice per ride. On my race bike, I added Di2 sprint shifters, because, I was sprinting a lot. The average rider would have no use for them at all.

Drive unit control is just another thing to consider when choosing an e-bike.

A "fiddler"?! First of all, I'm a violinist! Secondly...

Kidding! I mighty argue thqt this has to do more with the kind of terrain I ride than my own proclivities-- there is a reason I don't see a lot eBikers in the hills, and I think it's because it's just too much going on for most people: Many short, steep hills, blind curves, traffic from fast-moving & silent electric vehicles, stop signs, hidden trails, etc. If you don't know these hills really well, you're not going to have any fun at all here. I'm not sure that "Auto" or any set-it-and-forget-it setting would work here-- and I wish the low gear had a few extra teeth for some of the crazier hills, though this bike can do all of them, and easily, at the right PAS and cadence.

But I am a fiddler in one respect: I shut the motor off a lot, sometimes for short distances. It was very interesting riding to C Street Bikes through the Cahuenga Pass, which is another way of saying, don't do this if you don't have to. It's not fun. You aren't actually riding on the freeway, but you are riding on access roads right next to it. On the downhill stretches, a lot of 35 MPH for me with cars passing at 55 or 60 and not much in the way of a shoulder. (If I'd known the road surface, I might have gone faster.)

Curiously, the uphill stretches, that seem steep in a car, are actually quite gentle! I did most of them in ECO, with a few short stretches of TOUR. I use TOUR a lot more in my own neighborhood.

My range riding back from this bike shop was 10% better than usual despite similar elevation. I think part of that was the more gentle grades, but part of it was being able to shut off the motor more frequently. The uphill grade on the ride back was so gentle I left the motor off for a lot of it.

I think it looks like a pretty good placement regardless. Yes Stefan, Bosch uses a rigid hinged split ring with a screw to tighten. A 22mm with a 3mm gap is probably a better fit than trying to shim down a much bigger ring in that area.

I did something similar on my bike, its just a lot more complicated because the controller on the BES2 bikes is wired and a lot bulkier.

This is the correct answer to Stefan's question! But yes, I've dealt with the problem of hinged rings that don't quite fit, or with rubber shims that dry up, vulcanize, and loosen over time-- having an aftermarket light that fits great for 8 months, and then starts slipping.

But there's another part of the story I did not tell: The 31.8mm version of the remote is harder to find than the 22.2. They are both very hard to find, in fact, but to get the 31.8mm, I would have had to order it from Italy or somewhere else in Europe. Tariffs to Italy are on hold until 7/7, so I could have ordered the 31.8mm, or I could have ordered the 22.2 for about $10-$20 less domestically.

In this situation, I thought, "You know, I really don't know how to mount this, it will probably involve removing tape, and Catalyzt hates taping bars, doesn't know this new rubber tape or how it's sealed, and wants to support local LBS." The other issue was, I wanted to take the bike in and have them check the derailleur, make sure that I had done the micro-adjustment correctly, because it required six clicks. I told the LBS, "Look, we'll try it, if it doesn't work, I insist on paying you for your time." But I think Jason knew the gap was only 3mm-- he wasn't pushy at all, he just explained that we actually had options with the 31.8, he did have the part in stock, and I was welcome to swing by and see if it worked.

We tried a few positions; this did involve me going back into the shop area-- did we want it angled left or right, a little further up or down? That was interesting, too -- I really had to have my hands on the bars with the remote held in various test positions to see what would work.

I am happy to report that when Jason checked the derailleur, he said I'd dialed it in perfectly. I thought I was hearing some chain noise, and was psyching myself out by tightening and loosening it a turn or two every few rides until last weekend. In fact, I think I went from 5 clicks to 6, which felt right, then tried 7 clicks this weekend, which felt wrong, and dialed it back to 6. I think the noise I heard was just because the motor is a little louder than the E5000.

 

[stompandgo]

A "fiddler"?!

...

I thought I was hearing some chain noise, and was psyching myself out by tightening and loosening it a turn or two every few rides until last weekend. In fact, I think I went from 5 clicks to 6, which felt right, then tried 7 clicks this weekend, which felt wrong, and dialed it back to 6. I think the noise I heard was just because the motor is a little louder than the E5000.

 

[Catalyzt]

I have not been feeling well the past few weeks-- too boring to go into-- both head and stomach issues, a few spikes of high fever and lower smoldering ones, and very, very low energy.

I have barely ridden at all for nearly two weeks, but last night, I was determined to go to my local outdoor AA meeting about 3.5 miles away, and there was no way I was driving my car there.

My wife was concerned, and my INR was very high Friday, but I skipped my blood thinners Friday night. My guess is that my INR is about 3.5 now when it should be under 3. My plan: Just don't have an accident. (I should have worn my armor, but was too tired to deal with it.)

I launched down the hill, cornering at around 21 or 22 MPH, slower for the blind ones. I need almost no power until I turn East on Franklin Avenue, and at first, traffic is not fast, so I stay in ECO-- I do shut off the power sometimes, just not as frequently as when I was healthy. 20-24 MPH, then a downgrade, where the bike accelerates easily to 28.5 in Tour with only a moderate input from me. This is very different from Mercury, the Marin build with the TSDZ2B, which just really, really couldn't get past 26 MPH except going downhill, and took a lot of work to sustain even 24 MPH. I can maintain 28 MPH with little sprints of 30 MPH so easily on this bike-- even when I'm sick. I'm never giving it more than 60% leg power.

The meeting is a great attitude adjustment; I realize I am actually there for them, not for me. I put some extra money into the hat. I find a young guy who was in a similar line of work to me, earlier in sobriety, pull him aside and say a few friendly and encouraging words; tell him he can have a great life in that business, I know what it's like to have hard-drinking friends. He seems eager to leave, so I let him go. But as I am about to launch out of the parking lot, he shouts, "Thanks, man, ride safe, okay?" I smile. Maybe I broke through a little bit. Maybe he'll remember the quiet old biker in the back next time things start getting weird at a hard-drinking professional event. I realize that's what I wanted, more than anything, in coming here.

On the ride home, I am glad to have the built-in lights, though I sometimes wish the throw was just a bit further; they are pitched to the German standard that avoids blinding other drivers. In fact, it's enough, even at 30 MPH on crap pavement, so someone smarter than me obviously gamed this out. I don't want to go much faster than 30 MPH at night, anyway.

Going this way, there is more total vertical, but one descent is much steeper than any on the outbound leg. As we come over the crest, Nightmare nickers softly... how about it? There are no headlights in any direction. I let her have her head, and she screams through the cool Southern California night between 28 and 30 MPH. I know where the cracks in the pavement are; there's one bad pothole I can't avoid, but the headlights are great, I can see it, and I just lighten up on the bars and the saddle; only the faintest twinge of pain in my hands. When I'm prepared, it's not much a worse jolt than on the eMTB. If I hit that by surprise, of course, it would be much, much worse.

I LOVE the new handlebar/hood PAS remotes; I'm getting used to them, though I sometimes still shift up instead of shifting down. Past Hillhurst, traffic is fast, but the drivers are reasonable. It is like the cars in front and behind me have a tacit agreement to give me space to do whatever it is I'm doing; I just know the guy behind me is not going to do anything crazy. It feels like they are protecting me, weirdly. The speed limit is 25 or 30, no one is riding my rear wheel, all the lights are green. I take the whole lane and accelerate so I've got several car lengths both in front of me and behind me, maintaining a consistent distance; I think we're going about 26 or 27 for about five blocks. I'm glued to the road; it feels like me, the other two cars, and the cool, damp evening breeze are all part of some unspoken, unplanned exercise in gratuitous exhilaration. Not the fastest ride I've ever taken, not by a long shot, just epic in its own small, understated way.

There is one small hill on Franklin; at the top of it, I realize I am slightly winded; the chest cold is not gone at all. When the road opens up to two lanes, I pump up the assist and knock down the speed.

I do not care what the specs say. The Bosch Performance Line SX just has way more usable power than the Tongshen in every possible way. The gearing on Nightmare feels similar to Merccury in that I feel that I do wish I had a larger rear cog on the last and steepest ascent; Mercury's first and second gear were unusable due to the crappy chain line. But there the similarity ends; even given the SX's preference for higher cadence, it provides far more support than the Tongshen. I don't even have to use Turbo, even in my debilitated state, and I don't even use Sport for more than 500 feet total.

And the lack of anything resembling battery fade is deeply appreciated. Mercury had a smaller battery, and maybe 20-25% less range, but the last 40%, it just could not deliver the same level of power in high assist as it did for the first 60%.

I do not feel great today, actually-- not that bad, but not that great. But remembering last night's meeting, and ride, is a comforting and healing thought. I'm really glad I went,

 

[stompandgo]

Great story. I used to love my bike commutes that started and ended in the dark. Except for the suicidal chipmunks that I had to clean off the spokes.

 

[Chazmo]

I was determined to go to my local outdoor AA meeting about 3.5 miles away, and there was no way I was driving my car there.

Good on you, Catalyzt! Keep it up. Sorry about the low energy. I hope riding your ebike helps you get that back. Man, use all the help you need to be comfortable and feel good. And, good to hear that the assist remote is working well for you.

 

[Stefan Mikes]

No news from @Catalyzt past July 13th?

 

[stompandgo]

Must be out riding.

 

[gromike]

One hopes.

 

[slpfrsly4]

I have not been feeling well the past few weeks-- too boring to go into-- both head and stomach issues, a few spikes of high fever and lower smoldering ones, and very, very low energy.

I have barely ridden at all for nearly two weeks, but last night, I was determined to go to my local outdoor AA meeting about 3.5 miles away, and there was no way I was driving my car there.

My wife was concerned, and my INR was very high Friday, but I skipped my blood thinners Friday night. My guess is that my INR is about 3.5 now when it should be under 3. My plan: Just don't have an accident. (I should have worn my armor, but was too tired to deal with it.)

I launched down the hill, cornering at around 21 or 22 MPH, slower for the blind ones. I need almost no power until I turn East on Franklin Avenue, and at first, traffic is not fast, so I stay in ECO-- I do shut off the power sometimes, just not as frequently as when I was healthy. 20-24 MPH, then a downgrade, where the bike accelerates easily to 28.5 in Tour with only a moderate input from me. This is very different from Mercury, the Marin build with the TSDZ2B, which just really, really couldn't get past 26 MPH except going downhill, and took a lot of work to sustain even 24 MPH. I can maintain 28 MPH with little sprints of 30 MPH so easily on this bike-- even when I'm sick. I'm never giving it more than 60% leg power.

The meeting is a great attitude adjustment; I realize I am actually there for them, not for me. I put some extra money into the hat. I find a young guy who was in a similar line of work to me, earlier in sobriety, pull him aside and say a few friendly and encouraging words; tell him he can have a great life in that business, I know what it's like to have hard-drinking friends. He seems eager to leave, so I let him go. But as I am about to launch out of the parking lot, he shouts, "Thanks, man, ride safe, okay?" I smile. Maybe I broke through a little bit. Maybe he'll remember the quiet old biker in the back next time things start getting weird at a hard-drinking professional event. I realize that's what I wanted, more than anything, in coming here.

On the ride home, I am glad to have the built-in lights, though I sometimes wish the throw was just a bit further; they are pitched to the German standard that avoids blinding other drivers. In fact, it's enough, even at 30 MPH on crap pavement, so someone smarter than me obviously gamed this out. I don't want to go much faster than 30 MPH at night, anyway.

Going this way, there is more total vertical, but one descent is much steeper than any on the outbound leg. As we come over the crest, Nightmare nickers softly... how about it? There are no headlights in any direction. I let her have her head, and she screams through the cool Southern California night between 28 and 30 MPH. I know where the cracks in the pavement are; there's one bad pothole I can't avoid, but the headlights are great, I can see it, and I just lighten up on the bars and the saddle; only the faintest twinge of pain in my hands. When I'm prepared, it's not much a worse jolt than on the eMTB. If I hit that by surprise, of course, it would be much, much worse.

I LOVE the new handlebar/hood PAS remotes; I'm getting used to them, though I sometimes still shift up instead of shifting down. Past Hillhurst, traffic is fast, but the drivers are reasonable. It is like the cars in front and behind me have a tacit agreement to give me space to do whatever it is I'm doing; I just know the guy behind me is not going to do anything crazy. It feels like they are protecting me, weirdly. The speed limit is 25 or 30, no one is riding my rear wheel, all the lights are green. I take the whole lane and accelerate so I've got several car lengths both in front of me and behind me, maintaining a consistent distance; I think we're going about 26 or 27 for about five blocks. I'm glued to the road; it feels like me, the other two cars, and the cool, damp evening breeze are all part of some unspoken, unplanned exercise in gratuitous exhilaration. Not the fastest ride I've ever taken, not by a long shot, just epic in its own small, understated way.

There is one small hill on Franklin; at the top of it, I realize I am slightly winded; the chest cold is not gone at all. When the road opens up to two lanes, I pump up the assist and knock down the speed.

I do not care what the specs say. The Bosch Performance Line SX just has way more usable power than the Tongshen in every possible way. The gearing on Nightmare feels similar to Merccury in that I feel that I do wish I had a larger rear cog on the last and steepest ascent; Mercury's first and second gear were unusable due to the crappy chain line. But there the similarity ends; even given the SX's preference for higher cadence, it provides far more support than the Tongshen. I don't even have to use Turbo, even in my debilitated state, and I don't even use Sport for more than 500 feet total.

And the lack of anything resembling battery fade is deeply appreciated Full guide. Mercury had a smaller battery, and maybe 20-25% less range, but the last 40%, it just could not deliver the same level of power in high assist as it did for the first 60%.

I do not feel great today, actually-- not that bad, but not that great. But remembering last night's meeting, and ride, is a comforting and healing thought. I'm really glad I went,

It’s amazing how such a small misalignment can cause so much frustration.