Get Your Batteries Now ...If You Can

[reed scott]

The World Will Run Out Of EV Batteries By 2025 | OilPrice.com

The world is going all-in on the electric vehicle revolution, but there are a number of challenges that could stop the EV boom dead in its tracks

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[J.R.]

The world isn't ready for the EV revolution in so many ways. Raw materials, labor to get the raw materials, power grid, recycling/disposal of old packs. We have a lot of work to do.

The Dirty Truth Behind Electric Vehicles

The procurement of raw materials and the difficulties in recycling batteries show that electric vehicles are not as green and sustainable as we're prone to believe.

www.worldcrunch.com

 

[reed scott]

The world isn't ready for the EV revolution in so many ways. Raw materials, labor to get the raw materials, power grid, recycling/disposal of old packs. We have a lot of work to do.

The Dirty Truth Behind Electric Vehicles

The procurement of raw materials and the difficulties in recycling batteries show that electric vehicles are not as green and sustainable as we're prone to believe.

www.worldcrunch.com

Seems however 'the world' is not even close to coming to grips with the problems. They have their attentions elsewhere.

 

[Dallant]

The World Will Run Out Of EV Batteries By 2025 | OilPrice.com

The world is going all-in on the electric vehicle revolution, but there are a number of challenges that could stop the EV boom dead in its tracks

oilprice.com

Hmm, scare tactic article from a big-oil funded web site. That said, there are concerns.

 

[reed scott]

Hmm, scare tactic article from a big-oil funded web site. That said, there are concerns.

The article was quite environmentally responsible actually.

 

[J.R.]

"Big Oil" is investing in green energy more than any other segment of industry. Just makes sense, they don't want to be left out.

 

[Handlebars]

Big oil has always invested in climate change research and propaganda. The UK scientists in climategate called on the former BP overseer of Deepwater Horizon as it gushed, to clear them of all wrongdoing in a matter of hours for misleading the public by using measured temps and pretending they were proxy temps and so hiding that the proxy didn't work for telling the hottest decade in 1000yrs and lying about it, and he did it by reading all the thousands of emails and understanding the technical meaning of all terms and all the insider talk and first names and short form references. Cleared of wrongdoing. ta da!
He was just marvelous, David Eyton was. Now he's a Commander of The British Empire. So it turned out that climate scientists know how to cap a gusher too!

David Eyton | Who we are | Home

David joined the executive team in 2018 as group head of technology. He joined bp in 1982 with a degree in engineering and has held several positions in petroleum engineering, commercial and business management.

www.bp.com

 

[reed scott]

Big oil pioneered the industry of keeping the public and our elected reps in the dark while feeding us sh_t. The great tech overlords learned a lot from them. But I didn't publish this article to winge about big oil even though the article did come out of that sector. We should be reading exciting news about bigger better faster fancier electrical generation on a regular basis but nope. Pretty much nada. One is tempted to suspect the real plans of the powers that be are to force us all into massive downsizing of everything. Granted we are a profligate people. Huge homes, big cars and trucks, internal combustion engined toys, second and third homes, extensive travel etc etc etc. It is all going to be cut back I think and we won't have much to say about it.

I do wish they would find a way to ensure we have an adequate supply and distribution of batteries though. I mean come on, we're doing our part riding around on our electric bicycles. Help us out you great leaders.

 

[mschwett]

.... It is all going to be cut back I think and we won't have much to say about it.

maybe it will, maybe it won't, but it's hard to argue the moral case for NOT cutting back profligate consumption of land, water, energy, etc. perhaps the early industrialists didn't realize that consumption couldn't just keep going forever, but that was a long time ago and much has been learned. it's morally reprehensible that people live lifestyles that they KNOW would ruin the environment for their children and grandchildren simply because it's allowed. if everyone on earth had the resource footprint of a wealthy american 20 years ago with their cars and houses, there wouldn't be much of a planet left to leave to our kids.

 

[Handlebars]

maybe it will, maybe it won't, but it's hard to argue the moral case for NOT cutting back profligate consumption of land, water, energy, etc. perhaps the early industrialists didn't realize that consumption couldn't just keep going forever, but that was a long time ago and much has been learned. it's morally reprehensible that people live lifestyles that they KNOW would ruin the environment for their children and grandchildren simply because it's allowed. if everyone on earth had the resource footprint of a wealthy american 20 years ago with their cars and houses, there wouldn't be much of a planet left to leave to our kids.

Your concern doesn't matter a bit, because as you fret, China just upped the human R Nought to 1.5.
Their part of the climate deal is to increase C02 to max out by 2030.
BY 2030 India will have more people than China , so they too may ramp up as quickly as possible.
China agreed to do so for Obama as he promised USA would cut its emissions rapidly.
So increased global birth rate and ramped up CO2 ASAP...that is the actual deal he struck.

 

[ElevenAD]

The world isn't ready for the EV revolution in so many ways. Raw materials, labor to get the raw materials, power grid, recycling/disposal of old packs. We have a lot of work to do.

The Dirty Truth Behind Electric Vehicles

The procurement of raw materials and the difficulties in recycling batteries show that electric vehicles are not as green and sustainable as we're prone to believe.

www.worldcrunch.com

Well seeing as though we are just figuring out how to properly dispose of trash (after a few centuries) im thinking its going to be a while before we figure out what to do with used battery packs.

 

[Gionnirocket]

Yup, that's the answer to the overuse and abuse of resources. Buy all you can now

 

[6zfshdb]

The World Will Run Out Of EV Batteries By 2025 | OilPrice.com

The world is going all-in on the electric vehicle revolution, but there are a number of challenges that could stop the EV boom dead in its tracks

oilprice.com

I used this "Buy now while you can" philosophy when I bought my 3 e-bikes. All use the same battery so I bought 5. I thought it a good plan at first but after 3 years, even though they are stored properly, I find the 2 unused batteries are deteriorating with age. I'm not sure what their condition will be when the 3 main batteries finally become unusable.

 

[Dallant]

Yup, that's the answer to the overuse and abuse of resources. Buy all you can now

Hey, it works with toilet paper!
Actually, there is a perfectly sensible reasoning to do this given the recent pandemic-related cessation of production. It took me 9 months to get a single spare battery and who knows how long the RIB design of battery will be kept in production?

 

[J.R.]

Well seeing as though we are just figuring out how to properly dispose of trash (after a few centuries) im thinking its going to be a while before we figure out what to do with used battery packs.

Isn't that ridiculous. We never learn from mistakes of the past.

 

[reed scott]

I used this "Buy now while you can" philosophy when I bought my 3 e-bikes. All use the same battery so I bought 5. I thought it a good plan at first but after 3 years, even though they are stored properly, I find the 2 unused batteries are deteriorating with age. I'm not sure what their condition will be when the 3 main batteries finally become unusable.

I hope your unused batteries are not degraded. Would it not make sense to use all five in a rotation?

 

[Handlebars]

I hope your unused batteries are not degraded. Would it not make sense to use all five in a rotation?

I recently bought a spare battery "while I still could". I thought that keeping such unused batteries at a partial charge would preserve them fairly well. That aside, would rotating them in use do anything to help them not deteriorate?

 

[Handlebars]

My unused toilet paper stash is a good as the day I ran through the Walmart aisles to secure it.

 

[Handlebars]

Know what has doubled in price here? Name brand laundry detergent. Not dishwashing detergent, just laundry.

 

[Handlebars]

Know what has doubled in price here? Name brand laundry detergent. Not dishwashing detergent, just laundry.

BTW, Greenies...you can do your bit in an easy way and save money and trouble. Cut your detergent use in half or more by diluting it a lot. it works better like that, but just be careful of it when setting it back down in case it jumps out of the bottle. If you set it down hard it will shoot out right at ya.