Uuzd4S, Thank you for your reply and helpful information. I am hoping to hear from a supervisor next week on their decision. I would appreciate the outfit you spoke about in Clolrado.
Thank you again!
wings02, got a link to a E-Bike Battery rebuild service for ya;
https://www.hicbattery.com/Juiced-Bikes_c_29.html
One thing I forgot to mention in my original reply was that because my RipCurrent S original battery had around 600+ cycles on it and was showing some signs of decreased performance, I'd purchased Juiced New Gen 2 19Ah Battery as a backup. When I'd purchased my RCS during their Black Friday Sale in Nov 2019 a replacement 19Ah battery was $600 bucks which I thought was kinda spendy and so I didn't buy a spare at the time. I really had no Idea how many miles I had totaled on this RCS until late summer of 2021 when I looked at the total miles accumulated in my riding app "Bikeometer", is was 12K+miles. Seeing that total prompted a re-check of my math, which was correct, and then I'd realized I never recorded a single mile for my first two months of riding, so there was close to 1000 miles that wasn't tallied. I switched to slightly more user-friendly riding app called "Ride with GPS". Both these apps are loaded on my Android Cell Phone and have minimal "Social" network sharing features, but very good display features. Ride with GPS does take specific parts of all known & common Bike Trails and gives you a "time elapsed" comparison to others who have ridden along that same section of Trail or road. You can choose how much info you want to share on this App.
Anyways, it was after my first season of riding I looked into buying a replacement Batt from Juiced because I wanted to keep the number of charge/discharge cycles down on my Original Batt and just swap out Batteries between rides. This also meant I could have a fully charged battery available when returning and not having to "Fast Charge" the original batt between rides. Well, the same battery had jumped in price from $600 dollars to over $1200 dollars in that one year period. The 18650 cells that Juiced and everybody else uses for these E-Bike Batteries had gone up in price by about 20%, but Juiced had more than Doubled their price in just one year, which is just plain Gouging imho. It wasn't until early 2022 that Juiced had updated their original battery by adding a handle and a lighted bar display. They decided to dump their inventory of original Batt's and reduced the price back to it's original $600 bucks. Well, they sold out before I could get my hands on one but their 2nd Gen version went on a "Pre-Order" sale for $700 bucks after shipping/taxes and so I bought one of those. What's interesting is that it's performance matched that exactly of my slightly underperforming Original Battery, so I have to assume juiced has used a lower quality 18650 in the 2nd Gen Batt.
None the less, I have a spare and am using it for my First & Third ride for any given day. My usual and fav ride is 24 miles, about 1.5 hours long, and takes me South form Vancouver WA, over the Interstate 5 Columbia River crossing, then East along the Columbia on the Oregon side and then back North into Vancouver on the 205 Bypass. It's about 85% dedicated Bike Trail & 15% road miles for that ride. During the Summer, when it's hot, the trail along the Columbia is almost always about 10 to 15 degrees cooler than in town, very scenic and Gr8 for people watching. My other two favorite and common bike trails range from 16 miles to 26 miles and I'll switch out to one of those if riding more than twice a day.
I guess lastly, I found this Hi-C Battery rebuilding service in Denver about two yrs ago when my original battery began to use just a little bit more voltage (amp hours) for the same ride after about Two Seasons of riding. My 24 mile Columbia River ride usually ended with 52v left in the battery after beginning from a fully charged 58.8v start. After around 450 cycles it was coming in at around 51v for the same ride given the usual variables like wind direction and temp. So, I don't know if Hi-C Battery Rebuild Svc can do just a repair, which is what I think all your battery needs. Call them and ask their opinion and see if they are willing to do a repair rather than upselling to a complete rebuild. It's Highly unlikely the 18650 cells in your 15Ah 52v Battery are all spent past their Duty Cycle life expectancy after only 75 miles. If you haven't done something drastically wrong with this Batt, it's likely there's just some bad solder joint or a failed component on the Charge Control board within the batt. Lithium's require very controlled Charge and Discharge monitoring or they will quickly become useless. If you discharge to cutt-off voltage every time, or go below, the battery won't recharge or even worse, begin to swell and deform. Lithium's in Cell Phones last so long because they only charge and discharge to that 80%/20% voltage. High performance Lithium's, like these in our E-Bikes or the ones we use when flying Electric Radio Control Planes must be charged/discharged with well matched equipment or there's gonna be trouble. There's a type of glider in R/C called a Hotliner. It uses an electric "Outrunner" motor (the Can rotates instead of the armature) installed in the nose with a folding Carbon Fiber Prop attached. Between the Motor, Speed Controller and LiPo Battery these systems are designed to deliver 300 Amps + to the motor, but only for a few seconds at a time otherwise somethings gonna burn up. You hand launch the glider, hit the Go Switch and point the nose straight up as it will climb to over 1200 ft altitude in about 3 seconds, that's about 300mph straight up. The wings are all carbon fiber and stressed to between 40 and 60 G's. So you fly up to altitude in 2-3 seconds, kill the motor, and just glide around for fifteen min + until the Batt, Motor and Speed Controller have cooled and do it again. A setup like this is possible with Lithium's because the "C" ratings on the more expensive high performance cells is up around 70, meaning you can discharge these batteries continuously at 70 x their Amp Hour rating. A typical 18650 cell is rated @ 3000mah, or 3Amp Hours of power at the rated voltage. 3 x 70 = 2100 Amps for One hour with a 70 C Battery. You will find this type of High Capacity Discharge in those New Compact car starting battery packs, or in an Electric R/C aerobatic plane, but it's not practical for an E-Bike that only needs 15 Amps or less to push it along.
From my R/C experiences I learned how important a good Lithium Charger is and so I bought the GRIN Technologies Cycle Satiator from Juiced, which is an Excellent LiPo Charger allowing for charge rate control. I never charge above a 4Ah rate and usually charge at 2-3Ah. I believe the Supplied Juiced Charger is a 2Ah charger, but I'm not sure how well it handles trickle charging which is why I'm a little suspect over it's use as a Maintenance Charger.
Sorry about goin on about stuff, it habit from my career in Commercial Aviation Maint QC, we're encouraged to document Everything. : /
Thx for gettin back to me and fill me in on what Juiced comes up with or if you go aftermarket for repairs.
Happy Trails ! bw
