Bike recommendation for lightweight and good range.

martiboy

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My Ride1up 500 was recently stolen and I'm looking for a recommendation on a replacement. My requirements are a little different for this time than what I had before. Earlier heavy biked worked out since I lived in Seattle before, but now moved to the bay area and living upstairs in an apartment. I found myself going quite slow even on flat roads here, which I think had a lot to do with the weight too and winds. Looking for something ligh weight that I can easily lift for three flights of stairs, so maybe an upper limit of 33 pounds? My typical ride is a 25 to 30 miles weekend roundtrip ride with small hills. Mostly on road and minimal off-road. Budget is below $1700. I'm thinking a Ride1up Roadster almost fits this. I'm worried about the mileage though. Also used to having a bit of throttle for starting off a green signal but I can live without it. I'm a little picky about the design and would prefer something that's well conceals the battery. Range seems like something that can be hacked with the battery extension. Thoughts? Is there an alternative around same range that can be easily extended or fits the mileage?
 
Propella 7S. Yes it’s heavier, but not by much at 37lb. Plus it has gears.
 
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Seems the most practical. But in terms of looks, I don't really like how the battery stands out with no stealth
 
Seems the most practical. But in terms of looks, I don't really like how the battery stands out with no stealth
OK, slightly over your budget at $1900 but the Cannondale Treadwell Neo 2 is 38lb. It’s a Class 1 but has a torque PAS sensor and a cassette with a decent spread 11-34t and 38t chainring for hill climbing. I wouldn’t recommend a single speed for the distances you want to cover, and there are Cannondale dealers everywhere you could take the bike to for servicing.
 
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i second the cannondale recommendation, you live in the bay area and are riding 25+ miles, you want gears! add that to light weight and the list of choices is fairly short and mostly $3k plus unless you go DIY.

some of the lightweight belt/rear motor single speed designs are really nice, but without gears you’ll be eating battery like crazy to go up hills or into a stiff headwind. better to have gearing and use more of your own power and go slower, IMO, especially since it sounds like you’re riding for fun/exercise.
 
My Ride1up 500 was recently stolen and I'm looking for a recommendation on a replacement. My requirements are a little different for this time than what I had before. Earlier heavy biked worked out since I lived in Seattle before, but now moved to the bay area and living upstairs in an apartment. I found myself going quite slow even on flat roads here, which I think had a lot to do with the weight too and winds. Looking for something ligh weight that I can easily lift for three flights of stairs, so maybe an upper limit of 33 pounds? My typical ride is a 25 to 30 miles weekend roundtrip ride with small hills. Mostly on road and minimal off-road. Budget is below $1700. I'm thinking a Ride1up Roadster almost fits this. I'm worried about the mileage though. Also used to having a bit of throttle for starting off a green signal but I can live without it. I'm a little picky about the design and would prefer something that's well conceals the battery. Range seems like something that can be hacked with the battery extension. Thoughts? Is there an alternative around same range that can be easily extended or fits the mileage?
I got the Gravel Roadster from Ride 1 Up and it comes in at 36 lbs-still much lighter than my Frey CC and Espin Sport. I haven't tested battery range but I can tell you it is pretty easy to pedal without pedal assist on flat ground...
 
Cannondale seems good but pricey. Also not shore if it would hold up the range. Yes, I ride for fun and on the return, I prefer cruising and leaning more on the battery than having to pedal and conserve. Wouldn't ride1up roadster v2 with two batteries be better? I understand not being able to shift gears can feel more work especially on terrains.
 
Okay so some are 36V 10.5Ah but some are 36V 7Ah.

Maybe just get it directly from Alibaba?

Very interesting, these look like something Ride1up would purchase and modify. Seems like it has 10ah battery too and samsung one's. Do you have any experience with buying this/similar from Alibaba?
 
Very interesting, these look like something Ride1up would purchase and modify. Seems like it has 10ah battery too and samsung one's. Do you have any experience with buying this/similar from Alibaba?
You should have a lot of bike mechanic experience to buy an eBike directly from China. You get a bad one and it's all up to you to buy the correct parts to get it going again. There is very likely no warranty support.
 
OK, slightly over your budget at $1900 but the Cannondale Treadwell Neo 2 is 38lb. It’s a Class 1 but has a torque PAS sensor and a cassette with a decent spread 11-34t and 38t chainring for hill climbing. I wouldn’t recommend a single speed for the distances you want to cover, and there are Cannondale dealers everywhere you could take the bike to for servicing.

Oh cool! Looks like they're no longer using the eBikeMotion X35 system that employed a cadence+speed sensor. This seems like a pretty good value if someone is looking for a relatively light-weight bike that feels like a bike and doesn't ride in super steep or sustained hills.
 
Looks like they're no longer using the eBikeMotion X35 system that employed a cadence+speed sensor.
The Cannondale website still shows the Mahle eBikeMotion X35 for the Treadwell Neo models but for '22 opted to use the Hyena system for the Treadwell Neo 2 models. Another brand using the Hyena system is Trek, who previously called the system Hydrive, and it appears on their '22 Electra Townie Go! 7D cruiser model.
 
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Very interesting, these look like something Ride1up would purchase and modify. Seems like it has 10ah battery too and samsung one's. Do you have any experience with buying this/similar from Alibaba?
Looks to clock in at around 36 lbs. Not bad for 650. Shipping probably pretty steep...
 
I found myself going quite slow even on flat roads here, which I think had a lot to do with the weight too and winds.
Slow on flat roads, huh? How slow? And how strong of winds? The current gen Ride1Up 500 can go 28 mph with PAS, and once I'm up and moving on my even heavier Ride1Up 700, I've found weight not to be much of a factor until going up hill. Strong winds can slow down any bike, regardless of weight.

Wanting a lighter bike to carry up stairs is different, and I can understand that.
 
Slow on flat roads, huh? How slow? And how strong of winds? The current gen Ride1Up 500 can go 28 mph with PAS, and once I'm up and moving on my even heavier Ride1Up 700, I've found weight not to be much of a factor until going up hill. Strong winds can slow down any bike, regardless of weight.

Wanting a lighter bike to carry up stairs is different, and I can understand that.
Its mostly the stairs. I did notice my Ride1up 500 on flat with no PAS went at 10 mph and I usually needed to go to 3-4 assist to get to 13-14 mph. I'm guessing a lighter bike road/fixie style can get me to 13 mph with no assist.
 
Its mostly the stairs. I did notice my Ride1up 500 on flat with no PAS went at 10 mph and I usually needed to go to 3-4 assist to get to 13-14 mph. I'm guessing a lighter bike road/fixie style can get me to 13 mph with no assist.
Something is wrong there. If you're on the default PAS range of 0-5, and you are only going 13-14 mph in PAS 4 (out of 5) on a flat road, something isn't right. You should probably be going over 20 mph. I use the 0-7 range on my R1U 700 with custom power set for each assist level to my liking, which you can do on the 500 also (assuming it's not too old).
 
Something is wrong there. If you're on the default PAS range of 0-5, and you are only going 13-14 mph in PAS 4 (out of 5) on a flat road, something isn't right. You should probably be going over 20 mph. I use the 0-7 range on my R1U 700 with custom power set for each assist level to my liking, which you can do on the 500 also (assuming it's not too old).
My 500 had a 0 to 10 default iirc
 
My 500 had a 0 to 10 default iirc
0-9 was the max, but it's very unlikely it would have been defaulted even to 0-9. Just like my 700, the 0-5 seems to be the standard default. At least over the last two years, not sure about some of those much earlier Ride1Up generations as there is so little feedback back during those times when they were smaller potatoes.
 
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