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The ONLY brand that meets those specs including torque sensing but not a mid drive, and be anywhere close to $2k, because quality name brand mid drive motors by themselves are at $1000 (at least) is Surface 604. The motor at that cost, rules out other quality components such as your requested Alivio derailleur. The closest ebike to that price with a Bosch mid drive was the Batch commuter when they introduced it at $1999. Shortly thereafter it increased to $2199. And going into 2021 you are going to see widespread number of ebike brands whose models around that $2000 price go further north, due to tariffs that have been lingering, (but not passed on to the consumer in full), continuing severe shortages in numerous component areas including especially batteries, and continuing exploding worldwide ebike consumer demand. So if you find something now thats near what you are seeking and it's in stock, you probably should jump on it PDQ.
Motobecane and Bikes Direct ? Oh come on. That brand is no longer what it used to be, and bikes direct is hawking some pretty heavily hyped but quite marginal stuff when you dig into the details. I would not rule out fake labels or complete knock offs on even their shimano or rockshox components. The component price math just doesn't add up. shimano and sram both have seen huge increase in counterfeiting of their derailleurs and group sets and dealers have a really hard time discerning differences unless they get the OEM to look real closely when there is an issue. The past two years has Been really bad according to my rep from sram. Usually if the ebike price is too good to be true, you can count on it being chock full of knock off components. Sadly so, and again getting more pronounced with tariffs, more competition from more ebike (white label) brands, huge consumer (and very new to ebikes) demand, proliferation of site unseen on line buying by super naive consumers, and now more recently Covid driven shortages. And if dealers have a hard time discerning the fakes, you can bet no consumer will know, even more experienced bike buying ones. This is another reason I won't touch any brand I don't sell in terms of service. 3 years ago I got burned by a fake Sram derailleur that just would not index properly. ( X5's are known to be butter smooth and super durable). Got Sram involved and it was revealed to be a knock off. Wasted a lot of hours in that situation, and it was unfortunately on an ebike not bought at my shop nor a brand I carried. Never again. ( And I'd bet large sums of money, that the vast majority of the on line brands owners or staff that have come into existence in the past 5 to 7 years could not spot a knock off component at all, and given they order from 3rd party factories and get container loads of ebikes imported in, that go into their warehouses here in US, where boxes aren't ever opened, and they are going straight to consumers with zero inspection, it could easily go on for months or years without them even knowing, even if there are warranty claims as they just send out new parts which could also be knock offs since they don't see those, or do any inspection of defective parts usually letting consumers keep and toss them. They likely don't have the staff expertise, and they all run skeleton operations that are super lean so they don't have the time to even mess with any of this ).Take a look at CL and BD for some deals on mid-drives with decent spec components.
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Well the Allant+7 is what I own that fits all your criteria with the massive exception of cost. I love mine and it’s super reliable but it’s no where close to $2k. I like it enough that I bought a second one (a Lowstep) for my wife recently before the possibility that tariffs will go through the roof! Best of luck.
Well, Specialized completely shut down their phones for quite some time from what I’ve heard so staff expertise at that point was ZERO for one of the big 4. Weird times!
I like the Giant bikes but I don't think they come with a throttle? Do you know if one can be added?
I've had a Rize RX with the narrower tires (2.75) for a month and nearly 300 miles of riding here is S.E. Pennsylvania. I strongly considered an Allant 7s+, but I found the motor to be loud, did not like the 28 mph max assist, and I thought the bike was overpriced for the components used. Having LBS service was not a factor for me. I also considered the Bolton Foxbat and the Eunorau copy of the same. Ultimately, I went with the Rize RX because it had a mix of good to better components and large battery coupled with the Bafang Ultra motor. I use it for fun, exercise, and commuting, as well as errands to shops. I have only used the throttle once to go any distance, and that was because it starting pouring rain. Normally, the bike is in ECO PAS-1 and I blip up to 2 for super huge hills, but less and less, lately. So the power capabilities of the bike are overkill, but I like that it's there to use when I want to. My typical rides are a minimum of 10 miles, and frequently up to 30 miles, all road riding. Very hilly terrain in my area, and I weigh 220, and am 55 next March. I find that the battery range and power are exceptional for the bike, and at 5'11", I find the bike to be extremely comfortable over my longer rides. I plan on doing my own wrenching and tuning, and I use YouTube to find helpful videos to speed up my learning. I was able to tune the derailleur by watching a few videos and have the bike shifting like butter. The bike looks good, rides well, and is proving to be a very good value relative to brands like Biktrix and Wattwagons - both of which can come with much better components, but at an entirely different price point. Biktrix Ultra is the closest match, but the battery upgrade pushes the price well into the upper 3k range. The Rize RX comes so complete, the lights are nice, the rack is sensational and very solid, the suspension seat post is very nice to have standard, as well as the adjustable stem on the handlebars. Fenders are solid and don't rattle....I have zero complaints and would buy the same bike again, no question.
That is SO helpful to hear. Any feedback on their customer service?
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What customer service? DTC isn't there to provide much after the sale service, so I have no expectations. My bike did come with through axles, and many others who got the same model at the same time received QR axles. I wrote them and asked why, and never heard back. Mind you, I didn't ask them to make mine QR or change them, but nevertheless, no answer. So, there you go. No customer service. Good bike, though.
