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The Law of e-bikes is an emerging field. A lot of attorneys haven't really thought it through. Today, July 19, 2026, New Jersey becomes the first state to utterly defy federal law requiring bicycles and electric bicycles be treated the same as a consumer product and has declared that electric...

Strange; that's exactly how I see you, waving cartoon law and thinking emojis are an argument. Is this really the OP? Now it's about the shame of those idiot sovereign citizens? What conspiracy theory is next up for debate, so long as it keeps you from the cognitive dissonance of confronting...

Eminently reasonable in your suggested contexts. But what do you think about a guy with COPD who can't afford a car, has few options, and 3 class can't cut it going up a steep hill that cannot be avodied, maybe with 100 pounds of groceries or tools and materials to go do work? Or me, who is...

And you are right yet again.

Why, thanks for asking. No, that is not my argument. I'm countering other arguments. Instead I am arguing that just because an OPDMD can go faster than 28 m.p.h. does not mean it is not still an e-bike. Eventually Washnigton may work out an OPDMD exception for e-motos, but they have not...

Are ADA advocates wanting to discuss how OPDMDs fit into the Washington framework "sovereign citizens?" I haven't seen any of that talk in the thread, especially since I have engaged. I absolutely think the law applies to me, generally, but I don't think unconstitutional law applies to me...

I will no longer argue YOUR point that refuses to stay within the parameters of the OP. My point is all about the OP instead of trying to defeat the entire concept. I welcome anything you might want to talk about that involves recognition of the existence of OPDMDs and what to do about poorly...

If you can pardon our prior disagreement, I am totally with you on this one. There are many divergencies in this thread that really aren't about the ADA or OPDMDs and show an over abundance of concern for trails that are not relevant to a high degree. A focus on the day-to-day needs of the...

This thread Op is about whether or not the ADA preempts the rules about "legal-bikes." The underlying purpose is a discussion about OPDMDs which do not have the same 3 class limitations under state and federal law.. At the end of the day, you're ignoring the discussion about OPDMDs and...

I will explain this edit: I failed to hit reply but intended this answer to be for EMGX's second attempt at posing cartoon caricatures, so, I am making that clear. I apologize for the thing about my age. Another poster said that. Look, you're completely avoiding the fact that your...

By gosh that's a really slick looking infographic you got there. note: It says "may be" an electric motorcycle, but Washington doesn't have an "e-moto" law that sits in between the 3 class "definition" and the ceiling of the federal definition of an e-bike, unless something really recent...

I meant age, too. You said "going 35 on an e-bike when you're over sixty," so, yeah, that's about age. 35 mph does not mean an electric motorcycle; an electric moptorcycle ought to do highway speeds Why are you just making up "over sixty" about my age? I mean, I didn't say you were...

It wasn't but a few days ago I compiled that state list. What state are you in? If I missed something, I'd like to correct it.

It is a different world now, especially in the cities. The smaller towns have more relaxed cops, but even there they have gotten worse, too. Perhaps I might get in trouble today. I didn;t mean to say my style was the best; just saying that an attitude of "policing" your kids isn't a very...

Ummm...Legislators have immunity. Manufacturers and/or consumers are the ones the law protects.

I guess so. It's a funny thing...I'm good at writing jokes and even complexly layered ones but sometimes even simple stuff goes over my head.

Through the e-bike lens, this is not "wrong" per se, but it is highly confused. Everybody talks this way becasue manufacturers advertise this way It's misleading in your favor as far as power delivered. This is to get around regulations that are too stringent, especially in Europe. The...

The Safe Speeds Act is in congress and threatens to do exactly that. You don't have to care. I have no problems with states having use laws like speed limits (as long as they are equal) helmets, age restrictions. If your bike has something like 1000 watts continuous, then your shaft output may...

Always someone so special they think I should have gotten their permission. And what happens when nationally the law becomes "less than 750?"

That doesn't have to be. The first mistake is the idea of "policing" them. Any kid who has an e-bike against his parents' will has really bad parents if they can't deal with that. Then they help the kid learn to ride safely and warn him of many pitfalls, and hopefully they're not giving a...