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Lucky you! I see that the new Treks and BMC bikes that had the hpr50 are now coming with the hpr60 - no frame mods necessary. I’ve read a few posts about people swapping motors themselves and either unbolting the heat sinks or modifying the plastic motor cover to make room for them. What a good...

The plugged area is inside the Clik valve - the spring loaded plunger can only be pulled out a mm or so and I can’t clean out the tiny bits of gummy sealant inside the shaft. If I were able to put grease in there it would only make things worse. It is the airflow pathway through the valve. I did...

My Clik days are over. I gave them an honest try for five months or so but they are not what I hoped for. Both valves are partially plugged and the pump head to valve seal leaks a little unless it’s held motionless while snapped on. I use Orange Seal and usually rotate the wheels so the valves...

That’s a good point about getting a reasonable fit with an integrated cockpit, at least one that gives you 50mm of spacers to raise it with. I didn’t know they had that capability. I think I read the canyon has 15mm of adjustment. And as you said it doesn’t appear that they have ‘stem’ length...

It will be great to get your impressions of the difference between the hpr40 and hpr60. Aside from the increase in power in the high level, I wonder if you’ll feel a difference if they’re set to give the same support. And I agree with Ras about the one piece cockpit being a pretty extreme...

I’m looking forward to more of your reviews and insights! I saw a posting on another site where a rider pasted a response from TQ saying they will give the motors the ability to do “over the air updates” by the end of the year. If you get a chance to confirm that it sure would be a great...

REI shows up as a Canyon service location. Apparently rei partnered with canyon last year and is expanding their locations that service them.

If your reason for the flat bar conversion is a more upright position, you could consider riser drop bars like the redshift top shelf bars. They’ll raise the bars by 50 or 70mm and give you more hand positions than flat bars.

That sounds good. I’m 72 and was never a fast rider. If I ride fairly hard for an hour I do about 160w average, 175w normalized av. I do have plenty of days where I average 120w (~135 normalized), getting a more relaxed ride but still a decent workout. And unlike some TQ riders my rider power...

based on your data in line 32 I’d like to see how they compare with 155 watts of rider input. Maybe even compare two levels of exertion, I’d call 155w a moderate level and 120w a relaxed level. But then we all have our own definitions of those levels. Thanks for sharing your work here!

Interesting data. I would be more interested in comparing the range of the different bikes with rider power as a constant, meaning pedal them all with the same input power at the same speed and adjust the motor contribution needed to maintain that speed. It seems like the creo would need to be...

I watched that segment again and the translation said the BMC is a “super light unicycle …” No wonder it only weight 8.5kg! Then when you bolt on the front half of the bike it will weigh more than the canyon. Or the AI translator is showing its limitations.

I saw a couple of mentions and video views of the BMC from reviewers at Eurobike. It’s a prototype based on the Teammachine model, 8.5kg with the tq hpr40. I know BMC is switching their Roadmachine model from the hpr50 to the hpr60, which makes sense - the roadmachine is their endurance bike and...

I‘ve been reading that some mt. Bikers with the HPR50 have had them replaced with hpr60 motors. It seems that the only difference in fit between the two is that the hpr60 has bolt-on heat sink fins that could make it hard to fit the motor cover over, at least on some brands. Some say that the...

Yako just posted another video on his YouTube channel. This one is a ride comparison of the hpr40 and the Mahle x20. His ride was a long climb with up to 14% grade. Very nicely done comparison and worth a watch! Thanks again Yako for your unbiased evaluations!

Here’s a bit of good news, assuming it’s accurate: I read a riders post on an e mt bike site who quoted a response from TQ saying they are working on “over the air” updates for TQ systems and expect that to be in place by the end of the year.

A redshift riser drop bar (50 or 70mm rise) will raise bars on a creo higher than the flat bars on a Vado sl. For TQ hpr50 bikes like trek and BMC those bars will work too. The canyon with hpr40 seems to have a proprietary cockpit and steerer tube that makes it challenging to change to a...

Thanks for the article. My only complaint about the Garmin/TQ connection is that the TQ motor power doesn’t transmit to the Garmin. The specialized 1.1 sl was the same - no way to see the motor power being delivered on my Garmin. I do find (by watching my top tube display set to show both rider...

I’ve found that using settings where the assist percentage is higher than the max power gives you a lot of motor assist right away and can feel jerky and unnatural. By setting the assist percent to about half of the max power level, it spreads the assist out over a wider range of rider input...

Yako, on my hpr50 bike (and I’ve heard the hpr40 is the same but don’t know for sure) we set thee parameters in each of the three assist levels: Assist percentage (the motor gives you this percentage of the rider’s input power), max power (motor power is capped with this setting), and pedal...