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IMPOSSIBLE to find truly evidence based "which is better" Anecdotal is all we have. What works for one, won't necessarily work for others.

Yawn.... let it go.

I could swear you accused me of not letting this go. LOL

Yes, every member must post the brand/model of chain, what kind of motor and how much torque and the weight of your bike and your own weight and how hard of soft you pedal (please provide exact figures) please include where you ride, if it's wet or dry roads etc. All this before you post...

Wow man.... just wow. You are free to do anything you want with your chain. I'm only stating what has worked well for me.. Take it or leave it but you just can't leave it , can you

I'm not posting a pic of my chain checker to only be accused of using it wrong or some other silliness. I kept buying chain checkers because none of them showed any wear. I discovered it's not the checkers. My lube regimen actually works. I started this thread with good intentions, but YOU are...

FWIW, I was accused of using chain checkers that can't measure anything less than .5 of wear.. Not true, I actually have FOUR chain checkers now, one of which will measure the slightest bit of wear. I'm not on here to tell anyone what to do. Just sharing what works well for me. Another thing...

No but I yell "get a motorcycle!" when I pass ebikes on my suzuki

My bike has the bafang ultra motor and no speed restriction. I can ride it at 35mph on the flats on throttle so I pass regular bikes and yell "get an ebike! when I pass them"

Actually, the people from Canoe magazine years ago published an article where their crew specifically paddled one of these creeks where private fishing clubs thought they owned the river.After the boaters were harassed from the shore the state police were waiting for them at the take out...

I've paddled creeks where fishing clubs who think they own the river have strung wire across the river at neck level. You can argue with them until you are blue in the face that they don't own the river and a navigable river may be used by anyone but they think it's theirs.

Not to worry, the US gov't is going to send in the troops after those food courier gangs

Face it, a lot of people hate seeing others having a good time

My bike has the bafang ultra motor. I couldn't be happier with it. 1,000 watts of power and a throttle that works with or without pedaling. My 1st ebike had a 250 watt Yamaha mid drive and from the day I bought it, I wished it had more power. I no longer wish for more power with the bafang...

I had a huge moth enter my helmet while night riding on the highway on my motorcycle. I about crashed as the powder from its wings flapping around nearly blinded me. I was weaving all over the place and wouldn't you know, blue lights came on behind me. I got the bike to the shoulder of the...

Pics will cost you 5 bucks per shot :)

My wife was on the Swedish bikini team back in 73'

There's one place on my daily ride where ride against traffic. It's a 100 yard long stretch of a secondary road and there are two lanes of traffic coming the opposite way. The shoulder on this side of the road is wider than the other side and the other side only has one lane so IMO it's safer...

I guess the guy who wants to flatten my tires thinks he should have control over who rides past his house on a public road

Sadly, many people don't like seeing others having a good time. I had one guy who's house I ride past frequently tell me "it'd be a shame if something poked a hole in one of those tires"