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Yeah, there's no campy stuff on ebikes. They lose a lot of market share by not embracing ebikes. EIther that or manufacturers won't use Campagnolo stuff because of cost.. Again if they had a value line of components, they'd be in better shape

https://www.cyclonline.com/campagnolo-news-review-test/campagnolo-crisis-layoffs-and-millions-in-losses-%E2%80%93-the-whole-truth#google_vignette

I wipe the wet lube but not the chain wax. Works really well

For anyone that might be interested and suffered the pain of reading all six pages. The wax lube does seem to form some kind of "shell" on top of the wet lube. I have no scientific data but the chain stays cleaner than just using wet lube and also seems to wear less. That's really all I wanted...

Good bye smorgasboard... You refuse to let it go.. Enough is enough.. Find some other thread that bothers you. In fact, I might just start one. hehehhee

LOL.. you're a real piece of work smorgasbord. Instead of posting chain care threads, why not start a thread warning others about the dangers of not following the manufacturers directions when lubing a chain and the potential harm that wax on top of lube can cause. I'm sure you have the data to...

I think your inability to let it go is telling. Why don't you start your own thread about the proper products and technique to lube a chain instead of continuing to throw mud on my thread... I'm quite sure EVERYONE knows how you feel about mixing wet and wax lube. If it makes you feel better...

I've been using it for 8 years on bike chains.. No mess whatsoever compared to wet lube alone. I use the chain wax alone on my motorcycle chain (katana 1100) Zero fling off, zero mess. My test method has been called into question though so proceed with caution. The big advantage of maxima chain...

Apply the bar oil and then torch it with a propane torch to create a gummy membrane so there's no fling off :)

I think I'll try that next just to see if smorgasbord blows a gasket

I'm quite sure you're an expert on "science" so there's that :) By now, I'm sure everyone here is well aware of your stance on this subject. Sweet and Low was also discovered quite by accident. By combining o-sulfobenzoic acid with phosphorus chloride and ammonia (tasting random chemicals is...

I'm totally capable of riding an analog bike on my regular routes. I just love the rush of the bafang ultra motor kicking in going up hills or even on the flats. I always ride in max assist mode and have actually GAINED weight since ditching the analog bike and getting an ebike. In fact riding...

You're NOT glad I'm happy with my chain maintenance routine. You have a bone to pick and you simply can't let it go.. Sad. A lot of things in science we take for granted today were discovered by accident. The microwave oven is one, penicillin is another. Without experimenting, this would be a...

I stumbled on it quite by accident but I've been impressed with the results. I've been told the lube and the wax are not compatible, but I don't notice any strange separation or emulsification of the products. Either product alone is probably just fine but wax on top of lube seems to be even...

I use Maxima chain guard in an aerosol can followed by Maxima chain lube (wax based) also in an aerosol. I never claimed my results were scientific. You've called "BS" on everything I've posted and then accuse me of being insulting? FWIW, I do indeed use the park tools CC2 chain checker which...

After a rain ride, I re-lube just to be on the safe side. I have never ridden a long distance in the rain though. If I did, I'd be interested on what the experts say is the best lube for riding in the rain. If a standard lube is "gone" after 5mi. of rain riding then it would be nice to know...

The experts say wax based lube is incompatible with wet lubes. I have not found that to be the case but YRMV. Pretty sure most commercially available lubes are far better than no lube and the "best" lube for a bike chain is still a big mystery and will be debated over and over. Be aware I could...

Thanks but I'm not that dedicated to email companies and experts. I have found what works extremely well for me, I shared it and am getting tired of your in depth take downs on everything I post about it. You don't have to try it, in fact I'm sure you never will which is ok with me. If you find...

The "evidence" is in how long my chains are lasting and actually seeing the wax lube seal the wet lube to the chain. Instead of constantly claiming it won't work, maybe you should try it? The company making Mobil 1 says(or used to say) you can go 10,000mi. between oil changes. Are you going to...

I'm not starting with a perfectly clean chain every time I lube. If I did, I'd probably only use wax.