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  1. Douglas Ruby

    Longest Single Ride Yet!

    Velome, Yes, I did install the Turbo S battery in my standard Turbo. My goal was to maxmize range and to get bluetooth connectivity. Though technically the base Turbo is a Speed Pedelec, offering assist up to 42Km/h (26.2 mph), the highest average I have ever had over any kind of distance is...
  2. Douglas Ruby

    Turbo Updates

    Check the 2nd charger you got to see if it charges the battery "off the bike". And yes I have paid for firmware updates. If the dealer can do it and knows what he/she is doing, I'd recommend it.
  3. Douglas Ruby

    Longest Single Ride Yet!

    The power usage was not linear. I used TURBO for the major climbs. I used various ECO levels (60, 50, and 40) at different times. Plus I splurged and used TURBO for one 4-5 mile flat stretch. In the end, I used 90% of the 691Wh battery to go 55.7 miles, so 1.62% per mile. Yesterday, I did a...
  4. Douglas Ruby

    Help with decision to buy 2016 Turbo!

    I second @bazzapage. This is fundamentally a terrific bike. See if the dealer can order or if you can direct order the fender/rack kit. Making your own with separate rack and fenders is not difficult. Plus, finding bags to fit the Racktime OEM rack is a bit difficult. The specs on the bike can...
  5. Douglas Ruby

    Longest Single Ride Yet!

    Yeah to all of the above. Changing ECO levels once or twice in a 3+ hr ride isn't too bad. I found myself whacking the joystick and riding in No Boost mode for awhile. Thought I had a flat tire!
  6. Douglas Ruby

    Longest Single Ride Yet!

    Today was my second Ride 2 Recovery Honor Ride here in Nashua, NH. I rode my base Specialized Turbo (200W motor) again for the second time. Last year I did the "30 mile" loop with my 468Wh battery. I finished the actual 28.5 mile ride, with 987 ft of ascent, at an average speed of 18.3 mph. I...
  7. Douglas Ruby

    The new turbo Vado 2017

    Thanks for the review. When you get more details, let us know.
  8. Douglas Ruby

    The new turbo Vado 2017

    Please all, let's leave the politics at home. I don't want to go down the dyfunctional American political scene on an ebike forum.
  9. Douglas Ruby

    Turbo Levo Vs Comp vs Expert vs S-works

    None of the above., I am strictly a road rider.
  10. Douglas Ruby

    The new turbo Vado 2017

    The Vado series was just launched on May 18 in the US and were not orderable prior to that. They have been available in Europe before this. That none of us have these is not surprising.
  11. Douglas Ruby

    The new turbo Vado 2017

    I believe the motor is bolted in in such a way as to make it structural. I am quite sure it would not be welded in and non-removable. If you look here: https://www.specialized.com/us/en/busy-lives-call-for-faster-bikes you can see an "exploded view" that shows the mounting system for the motor...
  12. Douglas Ruby

    What kind of range do you get on one charge?

    On 9/3/16 I went 53.2 miles at ECO40 ending with 12% of battery left. This is with my older 468 Wh battery. Average 15.6 mph with 2845 ft of ascent. All logged on Strava at https://www.strava.com/activities/699305192. I now have a 691 Wh battery so the range would be proportionally longer, on...
  13. Douglas Ruby

    What kind of range do you get on one charge?

    Mark, Based on your terminology, I assume you ride a bike with a Bafang mid-drive. The Specialized Turbo doesn't use charging bars or PAS levels like some others so your terminology is not completely applicable. It is a torque sensing, DD hub, pedal assist that is very smooth unlike the...
  14. Douglas Ruby

    What kind of range do you get on one charge?

    Here is some data from a ride today. Distance was 9.95 miles each way. All data was collected using a Garmin Edge 1000 and Garmin Connect. At the end of each leg, data was uploaded to Strava. There was a positive elevation change of 200-250 feet on each leg. On the outbound leg I rode with my...
  15. Douglas Ruby

    The new turbo Vado 2017

    The 55lb measurement from Court is an actual number, not a mfg spec. While the 5.0 is a little less, the fork does not account for 8-9 lbs. The med frame vs a small accounts for something. Also, various other accoutrement probably factor in. Given that the battery differences are minimal in...
  16. Douglas Ruby

    What kind of range do you get on one charge?

    For pure pedal bikes, Strava will log accurate power readings IF you have a torque sensor in the crank. I know of no ebike that accurately records the combination of pedal power and motor power and provides it to a data collection system. In fact, I am unaware if any ebikes even log motor power...
  17. Douglas Ruby

    The new turbo Vado 2017

    With the motor no longer in the wheel, the rear wheel takes a lot less pounding. With the suspension fork, the front wheel also takes less pounding. I would guess the Vado to be just a bit lighter as well. DD hub drive has to have very heavy magnets to get adequate torque unlike geared hub or...
  18. Douglas Ruby

    What kind of range do you get on one charge?

    Steve, I ride a 2015/16 base Turbo. I find cruising at ECO 70 is a bit on the high side for range maintenance. Your numbers above suggest a range of just 22 miles which seems low. You are riding into a head wind which makes a big difference at speeds of 22-25 mph. What are your tire pressures...
  19. Douglas Ruby

    What kind of range do you get on one charge?

    Specialized base Turbo with stock 200W direct drive hub motor and the large 691Wh 36V battery from the Turbo S. I get from 40 miles (full Turbo mode) to 100 mi (ECO 30). Typical would be around 60-70 miles at ECO60. I weigh 240 lbs, am 66 years old (not too fit and not too strong). Typical...
  20. Douglas Ruby

    The pricing/value of Turbo X priced at $4K compared to other bikes available now?

    Actually, the 2016 Turbo X is pretty much the prior generation Turbo S with suspension fork and slightly larger battery.
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