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I think I'll try that next just to see if smorgasbord blows a gasket

I'm quite sure you're an expert on "science" so there's that :) By now, I'm sure everyone here is well aware of your stance on this subject. Sweet and Low was also discovered quite by accident. By combining o-sulfobenzoic acid with phosphorus chloride and ammonia (tasting random chemicals is...

I'm totally capable of riding an analog bike on my regular routes. I just love the rush of the bafang ultra motor kicking in going up hills or even on the flats. I always ride in max assist mode and have actually GAINED weight since ditching the analog bike and getting an ebike. In fact riding...

You're NOT glad I'm happy with my chain maintenance routine. You have a bone to pick and you simply can't let it go.. Sad. A lot of things in science we take for granted today were discovered by accident. The microwave oven is one, penicillin is another. Without experimenting, this would be a...

I stumbled on it quite by accident but I've been impressed with the results. I've been told the lube and the wax are not compatible, but I don't notice any strange separation or emulsification of the products. Either product alone is probably just fine but wax on top of lube seems to be even...

I use Maxima chain guard in an aerosol can followed by Maxima chain lube (wax based) also in an aerosol. I never claimed my results were scientific. You've called "BS" on everything I've posted and then accuse me of being insulting? FWIW, I do indeed use the park tools CC2 chain checker which...

After a rain ride, I re-lube just to be on the safe side. I have never ridden a long distance in the rain though. If I did, I'd be interested on what the experts say is the best lube for riding in the rain. If a standard lube is "gone" after 5mi. of rain riding then it would be nice to know...

The experts say wax based lube is incompatible with wet lubes. I have not found that to be the case but YRMV. Pretty sure most commercially available lubes are far better than no lube and the "best" lube for a bike chain is still a big mystery and will be debated over and over. Be aware I could...

Thanks but I'm not that dedicated to email companies and experts. I have found what works extremely well for me, I shared it and am getting tired of your in depth take downs on everything I post about it. You don't have to try it, in fact I'm sure you never will which is ok with me. If you find...

The "evidence" is in how long my chains are lasting and actually seeing the wax lube seal the wet lube to the chain. Instead of constantly claiming it won't work, maybe you should try it? The company making Mobil 1 says(or used to say) you can go 10,000mi. between oil changes. Are you going to...

I'm not starting with a perfectly clean chain every time I lube. If I did, I'd probably only use wax.

IMPOSSIBLE to find truly evidence based "which is better" Anecdotal is all we have. What works for one, won't necessarily work for others.

Yawn.... let it go.

I could swear you accused me of not letting this go. LOL

Yes, every member must post the brand/model of chain, what kind of motor and how much torque and the weight of your bike and your own weight and how hard of soft you pedal (please provide exact figures) please include where you ride, if it's wet or dry roads etc. All this before you post...

Wow man.... just wow. You are free to do anything you want with your chain. I'm only stating what has worked well for me.. Take it or leave it but you just can't leave it , can you

I'm not posting a pic of my chain checker to only be accused of using it wrong or some other silliness. I kept buying chain checkers because none of them showed any wear. I discovered it's not the checkers. My lube regimen actually works. I started this thread with good intentions, but YOU are...

FWIW, I was accused of using chain checkers that can't measure anything less than .5 of wear.. Not true, I actually have FOUR chain checkers now, one of which will measure the slightest bit of wear. I'm not on here to tell anyone what to do. Just sharing what works well for me. Another thing...

No but I yell "get a motorcycle!" when I pass ebikes on my suzuki

My bike has the bafang ultra motor and no speed restriction. I can ride it at 35mph on the flats on throttle so I pass regular bikes and yell "get an ebike! when I pass them"