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    Turbo Creo 2 Comp E5 (aluminum) is out, is a Vado SL 2 next?

    Are you completely ruling out a flat bar bike? Even if so, maybe consider a Vado or Vado SL step thru with a drop handlebar swap. Going e-shifting would also make the swap a little easier. If the kid's Levo SL were still sale priced at $2500 and _if_ there are suitable 24 inch tires available...
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    Turbo Creo 2 Comp E5 (aluminum) is out, is a Vado SL 2 next?

    While it may be hard to find, be sure to test the standover height on the alloy Creo. I wouldn't trust Specialized published specs, esp for an unreleased bike. As an example, the Tero 5.0 lists the same standover height for M and L frames. From test riding both, I know this is not the case.
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    Turbo Vado SL 5.0 and Specialized App - Range Extender

    Maybe you are running an older version of the app? On Android, it now shows firmware versions. Not sure about IOS but it seems spec updates the Apple versions first. My bikes don't need an update but I"ve read on the Creo facebook page that someone recently updated their bike's firmware from...
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    Specialized Turbo Vado SL: An Incredible E-Bike (User Club)

    I have a Tero 5.0 and I have replaced the 29x2.35 GCs with Sworks 42 mm pathfinders for road/smoother gravel with no issues with the smaller circumference wheels. In fact it actually more closely matches the factory set WHc (my Tero was programmed as a Vado with 650 B 2.3 in pathfinders I...
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    Turbo Vado SL5 vs Skitch Flatbar! And the winner is...

    Skitch was (and is still not) available in my size. So got a Creo 2 comp, swapped out the handlebars and brake/shifter levers for a flat bar, flat bar brake levers (same as on my Tero) and an AXS shift pod. Added Ergon GP2. And the Skreo was born :). Turns out the additional parts still...
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    Should I buy a Vado SL, or Wait for the Release of the Version with the 1.2 Motor?

    While it likely doesn't help overseas searches, just got an email announcing discounts on the Tero X 4.0 (3750 down from 4500) and 5.0 (4250 from 5500) as well as further discount on the Tero 5.0 (bike I paid $5000 for is now $3500). Demand for bikes is down industry wide and these discounts...
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    Turbo Vado SL5 vs Skitch Flatbar! And the winner is...

    Exactly. Comparing two different bikes using two different frames doesn't really address the viability of swapping bar types on either of them. By offering flat/drop bar versions on the same frame, Santa Cruz Bicycles shows it is viable. And since the LBS has already done the swap on other...
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    Specialized Turbo Vado SL: An Incredible E-Bike (User Club)

    There is a bike path along the river that has numerous underpasses. When there is heavy rain the path floods and when it recedes it leaves a coating of very slick river silt. So in the rainy season I do a similar thing, I swap out the Pathfinders on my Tero for 2.35 Ground Control up front and...
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    Turbo Vado SL5 vs Skitch Flatbar! And the winner is...

    No doubt there are cases where converting drop bars to flat might create a sizing issue. But every frame size is already expected to have a range of rider heights/proportions. Santa Cruz use the same frame for both flat and drop bar versions. The general sizing guidelines show that for a...
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    Turbo Vado SL5 vs Skitch Flatbar! And the winner is...

    On topic, I will say that if you can afford both the Skitch is a clear choice for me. Unfortunately it is still not available in my size. So like the OP, I decided to pick up a Creo 2 Comp. The clincher was the LBS said they had already done a couple flat bar conversions for the Creo and it...
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    specialized creo 2

    Had similar experience. Charged the bike to 80% a couple days ago. Just before starting the ride today charge reads 83%
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    Disc Brakes and Pads

    I don't have experience with Swissstops yet but am considering for replacements when needed. Looks like the ebike specific pads are "hardened" for longevity/fade at the expense of stopping power/noise. Depends on your own preferences which you choose to prioritize...
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    Larger Tires on 2021 Vado 4.0 SL

    Haven't tried the Marathons, but 38 mm pathfinders fit fine on my 4.0 EQ. 42mm SWorks pathfinders will rub on the rear fender mounting bolt. Didn't try the front since I had the fender removed at the time.
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    specialized creo 2

    From the Creo 2 user manual: The charge level of the battery is displayed during your ride on the display of the MasterMind TCU. The charge level can be customized to show in any of the fields on any page of the MasterMind TCU. At approximately 15-20% (depending on cell temperature and other...
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    Turbo Vado SL questions

    While I had no real issues with its ride, I added a Cane Creek suspension stem and seat post to my 4.0 SL EQ. While the ride is improved and I am using 38 mm tubeless tires on it, I felt the Skitch with its carbon frame and 47mm tires was much better. The Skitch was mostly quieter and...
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    Turbo Vado SL questions

    Same here. But while I wait for the Skitch to be restocked I'm gonna try to find some time to test ride a Creo 2. Been a few years since I've last owned a drop bar bike. I was so into riding the 4.0 Vado SL EQ that I neglected my Trek Domane and eventually traded that in. Absence makes the...
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    Turbo Vado SL questions

    I get what you're trying to say, but I would disagree. Depending on assist settings and rider power, the extra power of the 1.2 would be available at other than turbo settings. Just for illustration simplicity, assume the 1.1 is 300 W electrical power max and the 1.2 is 400 W max. Also for...
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    Turbo Vado SL questions

    Trek also has a couple of more budget friendly e-bikes that might suit your needs as well as possibly being a good intro to ebikes. As I recall, there was some discussion here when they first came out with a comment that the pedal assist did not kick in as smoothly as the Vado SL. But if you...
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    Turbo Vado SL questions

    Since you already have a road bike I'm not sure why you'd prefer the Vado SL vs a Creo -esp the updated Creos with the stronger 1.2 motor - you can always adjust assist levels downward if the Creo was more powerful than you need. Having said that, the Vado SL was my first ebike and I've been...
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    Axle Size

    When I wanted to go tubeless on my 4.0, the only off the shelf tubeless ready boost wheels were the ones from the 5.0. When I received those, the front hub was actually a 15 mm diam but provided with a 12 mm axle and a sleeve with a nominal 15 mm od. Makes sense from a parts/supply standpoint...
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